Rubio traded to Jazz

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think there are several variables here.

1) The Jazz may lose Hayward. Rubio allows them to still be competitive without Hayward, and a really good team with him.

2) We can now trade to get a player we couldn't if we had signed Hill. I'm pretty sure we will, so that adds an asset as well.

3) We can match Ingles easier, as he will have a bigger market Ike you're saying.

4) We can now play more uptempo, and I think Hayward wants to. We can still be elite defensively and run more.

Man, if the Jazz lose Hayward I hate having Rubio. Who on this team is going to ****ing score? The prospect of the Jazz scoring without Hayward is just mind boggling. Maybe it all works out even if they lose Hayward, but I'm not optimistic. Feels like Al Jefferson all over again.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Ricky Rubio is a very good NBA player who has been on the Twolves his whole career.

We got him for nothin.

We should be the opposite of doom and gloom.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Jimmy Butler and Miles Plumlee.

He'd probably be their friend if they were on the same team though.

 

[Spinoza]

Yep, I don't fault Hill at all for taking this route, but I am also very happy the Jazz didn't wait around.

I think it's kind of like the NBA draft, where you pick the best player regardless of positional needs. They had over 14 million to spend, and they got the BPA with that money.

 

[colton]

How does this free up cap space?

Sorry, I was thinking space below the luxury tax, not space below the cap.

 

[Revolution 9]

Why would anyone agree to money before hearing other offers first? Hill has never had a huge contract in his career. This is his time to set up his family and his family's families for life.

Yeah 80 million would be a struggle. How much can SA offer? I thought people were saying there wasn't a team who could offer a huge contract to him.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Is Ingles not friends with anyone?

JJ redick removed him from his Christmas card list.

 

[stitches]

We might as well open the Kiss Hayward Goodbye thread. What an unmitigated disaster! I absolutely hate this. And we gave them a first round pick for the pleasure of clearing space for them. WOW!

 

[Deleted member 848]

I'm glad that this means we aren't paying some **** contract to George Hill.

 

[Revolution 9]

Free agency hasn't started. Utah can't make any offers until tomorrow. The person who posted that is confused about the extension Hill declined months ago.

Ahhh ok.

So withhold my hatred until next week?

 

[SCS]

We've heard 3 things really about what Hayward is looking for from Utah

1. He prefers the Jazz keep Hill and Ingles
2. He would like the Jazz to be aggressive
3. He wants to win asap

The simple truth is that doing 1 AND 2 is almost impossible for the Jazz given their cap situation. So it looks like DL is banking on 2 being enough (with the possibility of bringing Ingles back as an added bonus). Now the question of whether this particular move helps with three is up for debate. All we can really do is trust DL. I don't think he would run the risk of losing Hill if keeping Hill was the only way to keep Hayward.

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

I view this as trading Hill for Rubio. I don't really care about the pick. Hill much better fit. Cy hit nail on the head about Jefferson trade. I wanted Boozer to walk and let Millsap step up. I'm never a big fan of acquiring talent that doesn't fit just to acquire talent. I think the fit of Hill is worth $7M more per year. We lack shooting and now have 30 mins per game of someone who can't shoot (coupled with Gobert). If someone can reference the last time this franchise had any moderate success with a PG who couldn't shoot.

No point in letting a pick go to waste, and Utah had cap room that was about to be wasted. And none of us knows what is happening with Hill. It's possible he is still in our plans, or it is possible he we might not have even had the option to keep him, and this was an insurance plan.

You are jumping to conclusions that may or may not be true.