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Rudy Gobert "Greatest Jazz Center of All Time" Countdown Thread

If he keeps playing like he is he will pass Eaton for sure, but it's not the runaway that some people think. Gobert has 57% of the points, 52% of the blocks, 43% of the rebounds, 42% of the assists and 21% of the blocks in 35% of the games.

Eaton plugged up the middle like nobody else in the history of the NBA, Gobert included. Of course, the rules were in Eaton's favor.
 
In my opinion Eaton is still 1, Memo is still 2. But Rudy passing both is just a matter of time and longevity. Eaton played 11 seasons for the Jazz, Memo a little over 6. Rudy is finishing his 5th. If he plays at his current level (or better) for the rest of his current contract he's going to pass Memo and likely big Mark too.
 
SCS said:
In my opinion Eaton is still 1, Memo is still 2. But Rudy passing both is just a matter of time and longevity. Eaton played 11 seasons for the Jazz, Memo a little over 6. Rudy is finishing his 5th. If he plays at his current level (or better) for the rest of his current contract he's going to pass Memo and likely big Mark too.
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Rudy is already a much better player than okur. Okur was a shooter, who wasn’t actually that amazing at shooting. He was ok. As a 6 11 player he only shot around 45% from the field in Utah, which is around what our 6’3” combo guard who gets criticized for poor efficiency shoots. He only broke 40% 3pt one season in his tenure here. He was an above average offensive player but He was a negative defensively nearly every year.

Goberts efficiency is much better. His last two years he’s averaged around 14ppg which more than what okur averaged here for 3 of his 6 seasons. Shoots a much much better percentage and annihilates okur defensively. Gobert has a much larger impact on the offense AND defense, with better efficiency.
 
Because Gobert is eternal and without beginning or end he has always been our best center ever.
 
Did a TPA search to compare Gobert, Okur, and Eaton.

Gobert has the top 2 total TPA (total points added, basically a statistical metric) seasons. Eaton has the third. Eaton's an offensive wreck in this metric, but his defensive metric blows Rudy out of the water. Total blocks and BPG are probably the biggest factors, but I'm not as informed on calculations of TPA.

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SCS said:
In my opinion Eaton is still 1, Memo is still 2. But Rudy passing both is just a matter of time and longevity. Eaton played 11 seasons for the Jazz, Memo a little over 6. Rudy is finishing his 5th. If he plays at his current level (or better) for the rest of his current contract he's going to pass Memo and likely big Mark too.
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I'd hear an argument for Eaton was better than Gobert. No way Gobert could survive in the age Eaton played in. It was too physical, Eaton was a big guy playing against a ton of big guys. With those rules and that era Gobert would get beaten up and abused in the post. His offense would be every bit as worthless as Eaton's was in that era as well.

But with the current set of rules Gobert is better than Eaton, Eaton couldn't survive in the current NBA. Too slow can't guard outside of the paint and he'd get destroyed by shooters.

There is no way in hell that Memo is even in this conversation. He's simply not the same impact of player that those 2 are/were.
 
I don't think that Memo even belongs in the conversation with Eaton and Rudy. Rudy is just starting to have the impact that Eaton did. I believe that Rudy will in the end be far and away the better player, but it's stretching to say that he's there already. In Eaton's era, if zone defenses were allowed, he would have easily been the best defensive center in history with no chance of anyone ever catching him because of the way the game has progressed. Eaton was huge, did not need to jump (much) to block shots and had fantastic hand speed matched with a innate sense of timing. Had Eaton been treated fairly, the Jazz would have taken down Magic's mighty Lakers.
 
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