Rudy Gobert "Greatest Jazz Center of All Time" Countdown Thread

[Jamezz]

Add some muscle to that big body of his and we're talking about some serious abuse down near the rim.

*This message not intended to be an UDQ

 

[framer]

I figured you must have them all done to be able to move Gobert up one notch at a time. Ah well, I've enjoyed the trip down memory lane for each of the centers to date. Gobert will enter "elite" territory soon enough.

I have them in quadrants roughly sorted by points with the total fantasy score settled out for the next six or seven. I haven't totaled out Memo, Ostertag, or Eaton for instance, because totaling the numbers for 59 or so guys all at once is a lot of darn work, especially if they have multiple seasons with playoff appearances. To give you an idea, Gobert is moving close to 800 fantasy points and that puts him about a third of the way to Greg Foster.

 

[QuinSnydersHair]

Would love to see Gobert put on 4-5 pounds each of the next three years, all the while remaining quick, spry, and injury-free.

Rudy Gobawse.

 

[framer]

#25 Kyrylo Fesenko

Points 329
Rebounds 299
Blocks 58
Steals 17
Assists 51

Yep, that time has arrived when Rudy puts Fes into the rearview mirror. If the Jazz had an all time quote team, Fes would be on there. Dude was flat out hilarious, and had mad athletic skills for his size, he just never seemed like he was able to play basketball. He would show marvelous flashes where he seemed unstoppable and a possible future cornerstone then would just slide into Ameachiville. In that sense he was the anti-Gobert getting career highs in points and rebounds (12 and 11, respectively in one game against Houston in 2008. I really thought it was better than that. . .) and never reaching either total again. He signed a three year contract starting in 2007 as a second round pick traded from the 76'rs, and spurned a multi-year contract from Houston to play for the Jazz for one more season in 2010. That was a bad decision as he soon found himself out of the league. I last saw him playing for the Wolves Summer League team this year, but he didn't stick. It appears that his goal for getting back into the league was to get his family out of the Ukraine where he fears for their safety. I'll cheer for him whatever life brings.

 

[QuinSnydersHair]

^
Can someone please find all the Fes/Kicky pics?

 

[Stifle Tower]

I have them in quadrants roughly sorted by points with the total fantasy score settled out for the next six or seven. I haven't totaled out Memo, Ostertag, or Eaton for instance, because totaling the numbers for 59 or so guys all at once is a lot of darn work, especially if they have multiple seasons with playoff appearances. To give you an idea, Gobert is moving close to 800 fantasy points and that puts him about a third of the way to Greg Foster.

I said NO names. Going to have to neg you.
JK. I know it's a lot of work. This just might be the best thread ever and is much appreciated. I'll continue to rep you (positively) as you post each center he passes.

 

[Stifle Tower]

#25 Kyrylo Fesenko

Points 329
Rebounds 299
Blocks 58
Steals 17
Assists 51

Yep, that time has arrived when Rudy puts Fes into the rearview mirror. If the Jazz had an all time quote team, Fes would be on there. Dude was flat out hilarious, and had mad athletic skills for his size, he just never seemed like he was able to play basketball. He would show marvelous flashes where he seemed unstoppable and a possible future cornerstone then would just slide into Ameachiville. In that sense he was the anti-Gobert getting career highs in points and rebounds (12 and 11, respectively in one game against Houston in 2008. I really thought it was better than that. . .) and never reaching either total again. He signed a three year contract starting in 2007 as a second round pick traded from the 76'rs, and spurned a multi-year contract from Houston to play for the Jazz for one more season in 2010. That was a bad decision as he soon found himself out of the league. I last saw him playing for the Wolves Summer League team this year, but he didn't stick. It appears that his goal for getting back into the league was to get his family out of the Ukraine where he fears for their safety. I'll cheer for him whatever life brings.

Hope he's successful in getting his family out. Can't imagine what it's like in that part of the world.

Everytime I see you post another center that Gobert has passed, "Memory" from Barbara Streisand goes through my head. Does that make me gay (not that there's anything wrong with that)? I just had a gay colleague once tell me Ms. Streisand is a huge favorite amongst his crowd.

"Memory, all alone in the moonlight
I can smile at the old days, I was beautiful then
I remember the time I knew what happiness was
Let the memory live again"


As for your reference to Amaechiville, we could probably put that to the music of Jimmy Buffet (Wastin' Away Again in Amaechiville).

 

[QuinSnydersHair]

#24 Archie Moses

Points 1 (One real cute kid)
Rebounds 2 (One for each knee surgery--way to bounce back, kid)
Blocks 17 (if you've been to a bar with him,you know he's a cockblocker and a half)
Steals 6 (Stolen a few ladies' hearts before)
Assists 37 (a cockblocker yes, but he's an even better wingman)
Months Lifting 5 (check out his guns yo)

 

[Hantlers]

However, I think the strategy for DL might be to a) offer Kanter a Favors-type deal at 12:00.01 on July 1st, with a very short window to accept (as in hours) or b) bemoan the fact the Jazz tried to reach a deal and believe they'll have to let him go.

What's the advantage of letting a team know you're going to match? . Saying the Jazz would match any offer for Hayward certainly didn't discourage Charlotte. And who knows...maybe had they thought $13M would be too high for Utah, the offer sheet would have been less. Saying you're going to match just means a team knows they'll have to significantly overpay if they have any chance of making you reconsider and decide to let that player go. If Kanter doesn't get an offer, then negotiations still have to be done and can still get nasty. Kanter and his agent could simply say Enes is going to play for the QO of $7.4M and become a free agent in 2016. In fact, if I were Enes, I might do that anyway. Cap is skyrocketing and most every team would be able to make a big offer for Kanter. If he keeps improving, he stands to gain a TON of money by waiting. Demand the max or just play for the QO and take out an insurance policy in case of injury (should have gone to law school...I would have been one hell of an agent!).

Sometimes I think I'm reading the writings of an insane person talking to themselves. This is one of those times.

 

[Hantlers]

#24 Archie Moses

Points 1 (One real cute kid)
Rebounds 2 (One for each knee surgery--way to bounce back, kid)
Blocks 17 (if you've been to a bar with him,you know he's a cockblocker and a half)
Steals 6 (Stolen a few ladies' hearts before)
Assists 37 (a cockblocker yes, but he's an even better wingman)
Months Lifting 5 (check out his guns yo)

Creepy Uncle Wes strikes again.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Sometimes I think I'm reading the writings of an insane person talking to themselves. This is one of those times.

Which part?
Monroe decided to go the QO route because Detroit wanted to underpay him (or so he perceived). The same nearly happened with Bledsoe.

AS for publicly stating you're going to match any offer, did it work in Hayward's case? Nope. And it may very well have backfired. Perhaps it worked in Bledsoe's case to discourage other teams from making an offer. But then Phoenix and Bledsoe and his agent got into a rather nasty back and forth. much of which played out in the media. Bledsoe threatened to play for the QO and Phoenix ended up paying him a lot of money anyway.

 

[Hantlers]

The part where you're acting like you would be a great agent for Enes Kanter in a thread about Rudy Gobert. Also the part where you think you'd be a good agent.