Rumor: Jazz prepared to match 'any offer' for Hayward.

[fishonjazz]

What was our offer to him last year? i can't recall. 4 years/44M?

4/48 iirc

 

[UGLI baby]

Here's a novel idea: it's the Miller's money. If they want to spend it, it's their prerogative. Stop worrying about how other people want to spend their money.

Dat solid understanding of the inner workings of the NBA doe.


£¥£

 

[GVC]

Well, if it's not a MAX contract, then more of the money can be given to Gordon up front and then the salaries decreasing in the next 4 years.

This is incorrect. The max amount refers to the first year salary. The most that can be given up front is the max. Teams can also offer a signing bonus.

 

[l Abach l]

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1331120

It's interesting to see what non Utah Jazz fans think Hayward's value is. I think that the general consensus on realgm is that he is worth around 7-9 but will get paid around 12-14. I he comes back, but I definitely don't want another AK47 situation.

 

[fallenchicken]

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1331120

It's interesting to see what non Utah Jazz fans think Hayward's value is. I think that the general consensus on realgm is that he is worth around 7-9 but will get paid around 12-14. I he comes back, but I definitely don't want another AK47 situation.

The contract won't be near as cumbersome as AK47's was.

 

[gregbroncs]

Here's a novel idea: it's the Miller's money. If they want to spend it, it's their prerogative. Stop worrying about how other people want to spend their money.

It may be their money but it affects the team we watch and follow and affects their ability to sign other pieces. So there is nothing wrong with discussing player contracts.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Here's a novel idea: it's the Miller's money. If they want to spend it, it's their prerogative. Stop worrying about how other people want to spend their money.

Bahaha!

Yeah! Dem socialist commie librule Obama luvin socialists!

Don't tread on me! You lazy *** welfare queens, stop tellin the job creatin millers what to do, ya lazy *** socialists!

Freedom!

Murika!

So you'd be down with the jazz offering the max to Jefferson, marvelous, and JL3? I mean, it's da millers money, right?

Wait, aren't you the dumbass that constantly defended Corbin last year? Why the hell are you still here?

 

[Ellipse]

Not allowed.

2011 CBA: Five years with 7.5 percent raises for Bird free agents; four years with 4.5 percent raises for other players (including all sign-and-trade transactions). The maximum salaries are the same as the 2005 CBA, except players coming off their rookie scale contracts qualify for the 30 percent maximum if they meet certain criteria.
https://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/CBA-111128/how-new-nba-deal-compares-last-one

Hayward doesn't meet the criteria for the 5/30% contract. So as I understand it, the cap is expected to increase to $63M, which would make a MAX contract for Hayward start at $15,750,000 (25%) and his salary could increase 4.5% per season for 4 years. GVC, Kenwood...is this correct?

I'd HATE to see Gordon playing for anything CLOSE to that amount, but honestly, it doesn't hurt us for a couple of years. And it could be traded. For example, if Phoenix offered Hayward the MAX and we matched, we could turn around and deal Hayward to Boston after 1 year.

You are assuming that Boston would take him with that contract.

Dumping a bad contract requires taking something bad back or giving up something good -- far better never to have signed the contract to begin with. If Hayward were a non-Jazz free agent, what value would we place on his talent after seeing how he performed last season? Would we really offer him a bigger contract than we gave Favors?

 

[Nate505]

Here's a novel idea: it's the Miller's money. If they want to spend it, it's their prerogative. Stop worrying about how other people want to spend their money.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Bahaha!

Yeah! Dem socialist commie librule Obama luvin socialists!

Don't tread on me! You lazy *** welfare queens, stop tellin the job creatin millers what to do, ya lazy *** socialists!

Freedom!

Murika!

So you'd be down with the jazz offering the max to Jefferson, marvelous, and JL3? I mean, it's da millers money, right?

Wait, aren't you the dumbass that constantly defended Corbin last year? Why the hell are you still here?

I wanted to say 'shut up moron!', but decided on this instead.

Shaddup Moran!!!!1!

*I mean this in the nicest way possible.

 

[Stifle Tower]

This is incorrect. The max amount refers to the first year salary. The most that can be given up front is the max. Teams can also offer a signing bonus.

Thanks for clarifying on the other post. You misunderstood me on this one. I'm just saying that if Gordon is shopping for a 4/$56m contract, which would not be the max, we could say, ok, we'll give you that contract IF you don't sign the offer sheet. BUT, we want to give you MAX the first year and then decrease by 4.5% each year after that to help us on the cap/tax in years 3 and 4 when we know we're going to be tight.

 

[slc]

Does a RFA have to sign an offer sheet or can he still sign with his team before he gets another offer?