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Russell Westbrook 2.0 at 23? (Zach LaVine)

Sexual Favors said:
Reason? Lavine's ceiling is that of a franchise player. Burke will be decent, but doesn't have that potential.

Qualities that Lavine has that matter to our team:

Shooting
Athleticism
Pace
Length
Above-the-rim. Demands the D w/ ability to shoot or get to the rack.

Trey's qualities that help our team:

PnR skills
Low TOV's
Comfortable w/ big shot
Good passer when he wants to be

Trey's qualities that hurt our team:

Pace. Extremly slow. Really affects the kind of wings we have. Hell, even our bigs are above average runners.
Length and height.
Athleticism
Can't get to th rim consistantly
Shot 38% on the year, and 33% from 3. Not a shooter.
Doesn't draw fouls.
Can't fight through screens
Not quick enough to defend... Yet? Ever?
Slightly delusional about his own worth to team. Despite having worst fg% in rotation, and having ball less because Hayward ran offense for most of the year, Trey still had 2nd most FGAs.



What is Trey elite at? He's a great FT shooter, but he doesn't get to the line.

He does a good job taking care of the ball, but shouldn't shooting a piss poor % with a lot of FGAs be considered turning the ball over?

Trey will be 22 next season.lavine will be 19. One has the age and body for upside and improvement, the other does not.


You might say, "well Trey has heart," but what good is heart if it tells you to chuck up bad shots that you can't make? I'd rather Trey had brains aand used his considerable talents for facilitating more.

LaVine is the kind of player Trey wants and tries to be. Lavine has the body and offensive potency to have a positive effect on games even when he's stupid. If he's too stupid and selfish to play the poiint, you can slide him to the 2.


Jazz need a star. Lavin has that potential in spades. Why should Trey be off limits?
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Fair (and accurate) pros and cons list.

I maintain that drafting Trey was a mistake.

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He's a sick athlete with a pretty smooth shot.

He would be a steal at 20. No way he's still around at 23
 
Isn't it hilarious that the best athlete at the NBA combine couldn't even get off the bench for UCLA. Their coach should be fired just for that.
 
LaVine's ceiling isn't a franchise player. Just becasue you are super athletic doesn't mean you have super star potential, just means you can jump really high.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
LaVine's ceiling isn't a franchise player. Just becasue you are super athletic doesn't mean you have super star potential, just means you can jump really high.
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This post is incredibly disingenuous, and I think even you know it.

Lavine has the length, height, and shooting ability to go along w/ his freakish athleticism. Rarely do you find athletes like him who can also shoot.

He needs to get a lot heavier before he can play starter minutes in the NBA.
 
Sexual Favors said:
This post is incredibly disingenuous, and I think even you know it.

Lavine has the length, height, and shooting ability to go along w/ his freakish athleticism. Rarely do you find athletes like him who can also shoot.

He needs to get a lot heavier before he can play starter minutes in the NBA.
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Brent Barry.

LaVine wasn't even a top 5 player on his college team, I'm not going to say he has super star potential, because he doesn't.
 
LaVine has average shooting guard height with average SG length, and a below average physical weight frame. Don't act like he is a PG either.
 
sojodave said:
Isn't it hilarious that the best athlete at the NBA combine couldn't even get off the bench for UCLA. Their coach should be fired just for that.
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The coach's son played ahead of him, as did Kyle Anderson (who's slow style wasn't an issue w/ the 35 second shot clock).

Lavine did play 24 mins a game though.

Check his per 40 compared to Russell Westrbook's @ UCLA
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/zach-lavine-1.html

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/russell-westbrook-1.html

College game rarely favors the athletic like Lavine and Westbrook, because the spacing is messed up w/ the shorter 3pt line, and the game is a lot slower and played in the hallfcourt more w/ the 35 second shot clock.

College was perfect for Trey's game.
 
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