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What is the Russian Endgame?

Within the last couple says America, Canada, Finland, Sweden, Estonia, Lithuania, Poland and Latvia have all had various situations with Russia.

They range from captured fishing boats to Russian military jets violating airspace.

Now these two reports;

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...oasted-Ukrainian-president-Russian-power.html

Putin statement that Russian forces could be in 5 NATO capitals in two days time.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/mobi...an-speakers-in-nato-baltic-states/507188.html

Russia is stating the possible need to protect Russian speakers in other nations as it did in Ukraine. Singles out Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia. All NATO members.

Discuss.
 
What is the Russian Endgame?

Within the last couple says America, Canada, Finland, Sweden, Estonia, Lithuania, Poland and Latvia have all had various situations with Russia.

They range from captured fishing boats to Russian military jets violating airspace.

Now these two reports;

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...oasted-Ukrainian-president-Russian-power.html

Putin statement that Russian forces could be in 5 NATO capitals in two days time.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/mobi...an-speakers-in-nato-baltic-states/507188.html

Russia is stating the possible need to protect Russian speakers in other nations as it did in Ukraine. Singles out Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia. All NATO members.

Discuss.

Sounds like they're following our lead.
 
Sounds like they're following our lead.

Oh to be sure there are western actions that antagonize Russia. NATO spearhead force, NATO naval forces in the Black Sea, increased ties with Finland and Sweden, providing supplies to Ukraine...

But what's Putin's endgame?
 
Oh to be sure there are western actions that antagonize Russia. NATO spearhead force, NATO naval forces in the Black Sea, increased ties with Finland and Sweden, providing supplies to Ukraine...

But what's Putin's endgame?

I'm not talking about antagonizing Russia. I'm talking about U.S. Imperialism. You know, inciting revolutions, arming militants, using heavy handed tactics to force sovereign nations to do what's best for us even if it's not best for them, flat out invading, attacking, bombing, killing, basically whatever it takes to be on top and stay on top.

Eventually the little game of king-of-the-mountain the U.S. has been playing will come back to bite us.

I know Machiavelli would have suggested that if that's how we're going to do business we should have conquered the disaffected nations while we had the chance instead of waiting for them to build up the strength to fight back.

Eventually we're going to be on the losing end of our own game, and it isn't going to be pleasant, to put it nicely.
 
I think he's trying to build Russia into a top-tier super power again.
 
I think he's trying to build Russia into a top-tier super power again.

Oh ok. Gotcha. I also think Putin has dreams of Russian resurgence and the power of the USSR. The problem is that he is coming into direct conflict with NATO. I don't see NATO just moving over. The eastern most NATO nations are particularly anti-Russian. For example: Poland. A country very verbal about it and one who is seeing growing clout in NATO and the EU.
 
I'm not talking about antagonizing Russia. I'm talking about U.S. Imperialism. You know, inciting revolutions, arming militants, using heavy handed tactics to force sovereign nations to do what's best for us even if it's not best for them, flat out invading, attacking, bombing, killing, basically whatever it takes to be on top and stay on top.

Eventually the little game of king-of-the-mountain the U.S. has been playing will come back to bite us.

I know Machiavelli would have suggested that if that's how we're going to do business we should have conquered the disaffected nations while we had the chance instead of waiting for them to build up the strength to fight back.

Eventually we're going to be on the losing end of our own game, and it isn't going to be pleasant, to put it nicely.

Technically nothing we have done is imperialism. What Russia is doing is directly imperialism.
 
Oh ok. Gotcha. I also think Putin has dreams of Russian resurgence and the power of the USSR. The problem is that he is coming into direct conflict with NATO. I don't see NATO just moving over. The eastern most NATO nations are particularly anti-Russian. For example: Poland. A country very verbal about it and one who is seeing growing clout in NATO and the EU.

They are making Germany nervous too.
 
Violated Treaty Agreement, and Trust.

Some years ago, when Russia was dickering with us about some arms agreements and such, about the time of the "breakup" of the old "CCCP" or USSR, or about the time some of the former USSR "properties" were apply for NATO membership, we made some agreements that we have now trashed. We specifically trashed those "treaties" when we supported the idea of inviting, nay compelling Ukraine to come our way and join NATO. Openly fascist political elements controlled from the West, from NATO, worked for this shift.

Commentators supportive of Putin speculate that the EU is financially bankrupt, and intends to further deplete Ukraine's resources while supporting Ukraine's "independence".

One commentator, Joel Skousen, says it's a puppet show buildup to WWIII, which is the only way our "powers that be" can manage to escape the consequences of the financial ruin that's been made of us. Russia has mended it's financial ways, and is stronger today.
 
BRICA

The real story is the imminent financial crisis in the United States and Europe. A vast holocaust of financial depletion, of corporate and banking interests pillaging of the public resources, squandering it all on speculative "investments" that are today's secondary "markets", or "bets" not backed up by actual real property, commodities, business, or real estate. Puts and calls, covered shorts and longs, all put in place under computer programs for milking "income" out of the markets. "Derivative Markets".

How much longer can we keep this bubble economy pumped up.

We already have more "soup kitchen people" today that in the depths of the Great Depression. Yep. All the folks on "Food Stamps", all the welfare people. All the people who have no farm to work on, where they can grow their own potatos, tomatos, beef, and grain. . . . all the people who have been displaced from menial and skill-less jobs by slaves imported from Mexico "working under the table" so their employers don't have to pay social security, medicare, and income tax withholding, while sending their kids off to public schools and freely using our medical facilities. People Mexican Government officials wouldn't do anything for.

Plus, our "military industrial complex" folks are hankering for more orders for bombs and planes, of every kind.



Meanwhile, a portion of the world is choosing to opt out of this systemic insanity.

Brazil, Russia, India, China, Argentina, and some others. . . . BRICA


Are working towards moving away from US Dollar dominated business transaction, and putting money into infrastructure rather than just buy US "investment" positions, reducing holdings of US Dollars, building reserves in gold and silver, do "oil business" outside the US dollar dominated banking system, and such. Just ahead of an impending IMF move to substitute "IMF drawing rights" for US Dollars, a step towards a western-controlled international currency.

Let the US waste itself in the Mid East. . . . China and Russia and India are waiting for the invitation of the "burned over region" to step in and restore order.

The best-laid plans of mice and men often go awry. . . . in this case, what's not working in the CFR playbook is the frightening strength of US conservatives who are no longer in an unquestioning frame of mind, no longer being led by mainstream media propaganda. Another thing that's not working is some countries who are informed and rejecting the US/British models of "world government", and are going to acting otherwise than instructed.

Putin is not going to start a war, but he is no longer Armand Hammer's leige errand boy either. The thing that is different about Russia is "independence", after all these years, from puppeteer western schemers. Putin does not have to start a war, all he has to do is stand his ground while we implode.

Western warhawks listening to the likes of Karl Rove and Zbignew Bryzenkie will try to rattle us into another stupid war if they can, but the fact is, we're broke.
So it's off to war we go, once again. . . .

but today we have to buy our military equipment parts from suppliers in China????? And we're broke?
 
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What you think is end game? Americans is so stupid. We sit back making preparation while you spread butter too much thin around world. Bases in 114 country, debt by 2000 times income, cannot handle even Iraq after 13 years time.. Keep this thing my friends. We are coiled spring waiting to attack your dont tread on me Texas rattleback.
 
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