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BabyPeterzz said:
Siro, I know you think your opinion of the future of our economy and technologically-focused free market is correct, but all it is is an opinion and speculation. People have been saying for decades that technology would replace the low level worker, and it has to a small degree. But those who make this assumption forget that the free market depends on the low/mid level laborer to help drive the market. It's in the markets best interest to have a skilled, employed populous, and this will never change.
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What is your point? All your disagreements are also opinion and speculation. Hell, saying "I'm going to work tomorrow" is also opinion and speculation. Also, I already responded to the claim about how people always said this about technology. I don't see what the rest of what you're saying have to do with anything.

I also love the comments that "things are just fine" in America for the typical working American. This coming from rich/upper-middle/middle class white Americans makes me skeptical.
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None of that applies to me. Am I allowed to comment on the state of the country that I live in?

There are people suffering in the richest country in the free world. Things may be fine for you and your buddies, but there are way too many suffering and if you don't think new and innovative changes are not necessary I don't know what to tell you. This **** has been acknowledged then ignored or forgotten over and over and over again.

We need to stop thinking small and innovate again.
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Again with the utopia dreams. Nobody is saying that things are perfect. Nobody is saying that things can't be improved. WE'RE SAYING THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE SITUATION, ALONG WITH YOUR SOLUTIONS, ARE WRONG.
 
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♪alt13 said:
Co-ops are perfectly compatible with free markets. Land O' Lakes is a co-op. So is every Credit Union.
Trade Unions are also compatible with our system and way less of a move toward socialism than what you propose.
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I don't really care about whether something is labelled "capitalist" or "socialist", and I suspect neither do you. I have no problem with unions, but trying to force the issue through regulation isn't my idea of a solution.



It's not a free market. China is manipulating the market and their currency and we continue to conduct "free trade" with them. Yes we need some manufacturing capacity. If for no other reason than for security. Without some manufacturing we are vulnerable. We shouldn't allow a communist regime to prop itself up by manipulating our market.
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Whatever you want to call the system of capital and trade that we engage in. I'm not equipped to argue about the philosophy of each term. And I don't buy what you're saying about manufacturing. Manufacturing naturally migrates to where labor is cheapest. China won't retain its seat as the world's manufacturing capital forever.
 
Siro said:
I don't really care about whether something is labelled "capitalist" or "socialist", and I suspect neither do you. I have no problem with unions, but trying to force the issue through regulation isn't my idea of a solution.
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You do need people to understand what a co-op is and how it works. Yes you can force them. Many credit Unions, IIRC, were originally set up by the gov. The gov provided starting capital to get them up and running.


Siro said:
Whatever you want to call the system of capital and trade that we engage in. I'm not equipped to argue about the philosophy of each term. And I don't buy what you're saying about manufacturing. Manufacturing naturally migrates to where labor is cheapest. China won't retain its seat as the world's manufacturing capital forever.
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They can if they use the power of their regime to keep wages in China suppressed and use the capital gained to expand the power of the state. Which is pretty much exactly what they are doing.

The reason we are still at 0% interest.(****in crazy) is because the Fed is trying to fight deflation. Much of that continuing deflationary pressure is due to Chinese policy.
 
Eminence said:
Talk about unsustainable.

Our education system needs improvement.
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There used to be a saying 'if it's not broke don't fix it'. That has been replaced with PR/PC 'everything is broke and we need to fix it'. The unfortunate thing with education is the fix it felix crowd don't know a damn thing about child education and are the ones breaking it trying to fix it.
 
Siro said:
What is your point? All your disagreements are also opinion and speculation. Hell, saying "I'm going to work tomorrow" is also opinion and speculation. Also, I already responded to the claim about how people always said this about technology. I don't see what the rest of what you're saying have to do with anything.
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My point is I think you're opinions are flawed and not grounded in reality. Just stating my opinion, and not sure why you're losing your **** over it. I apologize I didn't see a response to your "get off my lawn" opinion about tech. The rest was my opinion of your opinion. Deal with it.


None of that applies to me. Am I allowed to comment on the state of the country that I live in?
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Sure it does, you carry opinions similar to that stereotype. Yes, you're allowed to say whatever the **** you want, I don't care. Just don't assume because you take unimaginative, status quo approaches to issues means that us lowly optimists need to bow down to your boring ideas.


Again with the utopia dreams. Nobody is saying that things are perfect. Nobody is saying that things can't be improved. WE'RE SAYING THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE SITUATION, ALONG WITH YOUR SOLUTIONS, ARE WRONG.
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Haha. I love this ****. "Utopia" is often a word used my boring conformists to describe change they are either uncomfortable with. Ending suffering, while unrealistic and never going to happen, is the ****ing goal, son. Throwing it out with the bath water because it doesn't fit within in your preconceived middle-of-the-road reality (which is complete ******** and just as unrealistic) is cynical and boarder line nihilistic. As for your ALL CAPS tempter tantrum, I do understand the situation and I like my solutions. Yes, I'm not totally educated on every issue, but neither are you, and you yelling I'm wrong...well....is just ****ing stupid.
 
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