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say NO to EXUM. the biggest bust since darko.

Elfrid Payton had the Orlando starting PG job handed to him on a platter and the Magic FO decided that they would rather go with DJ Augustin in the starting role, and they traded him to another PG deficient team in the Suns for nothing more than a 2nd round pick. Payton was then unable to land a new contract with the worst team in the West playing the position they had a real need in, and went with a 1 year minimum deal with NOLA. The most notable thing Payton has done in the NBA was get a haircut.

That really should tell you all you need to know about Payton.
 
Sandman822 said:
The most notable thing Payton has done in the NBA was get a haircut.
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So you do not remember him dropping 28,9,9 on Jazz two years ago? Or a couple tripple doubles last season? When did Exum had any box score resembling anything close like that? I just can't believe how you guys judge player by whatever stupid moves some teams FO makes.
 
MVP said:
So you do not remember him dropping 28,9,9 on Jazz two years ago? Or a couple tripple doubles last season? When did Exum had any box score resembling anything close like that? I just can't believe how you guys judge player by whatever stupid moves some teams FO makes.
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I actually think Payton has shown more as an NBA player. He's had a much better opportunity and career path than Exum so I don't know if I think he's a better player or has a better future. He also has a lot of holes in his game (as does Exum at this point). I think you are probably talking about what he's actually done, which is a fair point, imo. I think if a team got Exum they would do so because they think there is untapped potential, or they would disagree with you that he doesn't have some elite skills that might give him a higher ceiling than Elfrid. No matter your opinion you have to admit that he hasn't really had a great chance to develop on the court.

I don't think the Suns would want Exum, though. From my recollection Igor (Locke's main source of info and buddy) wasn't very high on Dante. He doesn't make the decisions there, but I'm sure he has some input.
 
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Quin's Murderface said:
. No matter your opinion you have to admit that he hasn't really had a great chance to develop on the court.
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He started as a rookie for half the season and had plenty of time on the court.... yet produced historically worst season by any player with that amount of minutes. But, yes, I agree he had no chance to develop properly because he rushed to cash in his hype in NBA and declared for draft way too early. Had he gone to college for at least a year or two his career would be different in my opinion.
 
Quin's Murderface said:
He also has a lot of holes in his game (as does Exum at this point)..
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They both do not shoot the ball well, although Dante at least makes his FT at good %. Payton though is much stronger, better passer and rebounder and averages 1.2 stl more per game. Exum has advantage in quickness and length. I would still take Payton over Exum at this point as he at least has proven that he can run NBA offence successfully. With Exum you just never know what you will get. He is just to unreliable.
 
MVP said:
He started as a rookie for half the season and had plenty of time on the court.... yet produced historically worst season by any player with that amount of minutes. But, yes, I agree he had no chance to develop properly because he rushed to cash in his hype in NBA and declared for draft way too early. Had he gone to college for at least a year or two his career would be different in my opinion.
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What?

If he had gone to college, he still plays for Australia the following summer and tears his ACL. And college is not a great place for all players to develop. His career would have been much worse.
 
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