Second Draft Trade Targets (Game Theory Podcast Definition)

[KqWIN]

At least on the Game Theory podcast they talked about him as someone who was available, not that they are trying to move him. That makes more sense to me, and I'm inclined to believe that the messaging has been muddied from available to not wanting him.

If the Kings really are trying to move him for anything it would be extremely short sighted. He played less than half the season after shoulder surgery with only 5 games where he got 20+ minutes the whole season. There is no way they could have expected him to look like anything in those circumstances.

(FWIW Devin Carter's Average Net Rating in the 5 games where he had more than 20 minutes is +14.88).

Yeah I don't know how he could possibly drop that low based on his. Injury or not, I thought his play was fine.

The Kings are not a logical franchise, however, and it seems like their focus is WB. If they bring in WB and keep Monk, they'll have no minutes for him and he'll just rot away.

I guess the part that I'm wondering about is why no one else in the league has taken a flier on him if he is indeed available for cheap. Does he have bad intel? Or do the Kings have an actual asking price that teams don't want to meet? Saric+Carter for Anderson seems like a reasonable trade if he's going for cheap.

 

[KqWIN]

You could include the RFA holdouts into this discussion. I’m still interested in how this Kuminga situation shakes out. I’m kind of surprised that there was zero smoke about him with the Jazz, he seems to be exactly Ainge’s type. There are definitely some similarities between he and Ace, on and off the court.

Kuminga deserves a lot of the blame for his situation, but at the same time I don’t think the Warriors put him in a position to succeed. I don’t think he’s Tatum/Brown of course, but I’m reminded of that year when Hayward came back. There was a ton of tension between the young guys trying to prove themselves and the existing veterans. Tatum and Brown both had poor seasons and it wasn’t all roses in the locker room. Kuminga has been in that situation for like 3 years straight.

Again, I don’t think he’s going to be as good as those two, but I do think a different situation would serve him well.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Is Monk considered a negative asset? He's been pretty solid the last 3 years in Sac, but I guess he's kind of overpaid in the new CBA landscape where no one wants to pay starter money to a 6th man who is an inconsistent shooter and a negative defensively.

 

[KqWIN]

Is Monk considered a negative asset? He's been pretty solid the last 3 years in Sac, but I guess he's kind of overpaid in the new CBA landscape where no one wants to pay starter money to a 6th man who is an inconsistent shooter and a negative defensively.

Yes he's 100% negative.

 

[KqWIN]

IMO, even the very best "6MOY" scoring/no defense types will struggle to get the full MLE. So if you're above that (i.e. Monk/Sexton) you have no value.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

IMO, even the very best "6MOY" scoring/no defense types will struggle to get the full MLE. So if you're above that (i.e. Monk/Sexton) you have no value.

Yeah, but I do think Monk is, when he is on, a positive player and better than Sexton. His defense isn't as bad and he's become a good playmaker (a notch above Sexton imo). The main issue is that he has the Clarkson quality of being an inconsistent volume shooter.

But yeah, just overpaid and with a player option in his final year. I wonder what they would give up to just get off him. I doubt Utah is interested due to not wanting to clog the roster, but I would think someone would bite on it if they are offering a first round pick

 

[KqWIN]

Yeah, but I do think Monk is, when he is on, a positive player and better than Sexton. His defense isn't as bad and he's become a good playmaker (a notch above Sexton imo). The main issue is that he has the Clarkson quality of being an inconsistent volume shooter.

But yeah, just overpaid and with a player option in his final year. I wonder what they would give up to just get off him. I doubt Utah is interested due to not wanting to clog the roster, but I would think someone would bite on it if they are offering a first round pick

I think you need to basically be borderline all star level to get past the full MLE level and get paid like starters. Nobody wants this archetype and it’s an extremely easy role to fill. I think Monk is pretty much the peak of this 6MOY/Borderline starter level, but that still likely only amounts to full MLE value and his salary is still above that.

Last report is that they’re not looking to trade him anymore. I’m guessing they tried to trade him for value but nothing was out there. Think they could move him with a first round pick but they don’t want to.

 

[KqWIN]

Keegan Murray could be considered a second draft guy but they’ve been very resistant to trading him. We need to deal with the Kings one way or another. Maybe that’s a Lauri mid season deal.

 

[KqWIN]

Mavs trying to get rid of OMax Propser. I don’t think hes any good.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

Mavs trying to get rid of OMax Propser. I don’t think hes any good.

I thought he showed some flashes his rookie year. He's had some injury stuff that might have been holding him back. I'm not super interested, but mildly interested in giving him a flier.