Thee Jazz Fan
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Say Corbin is fired next week. Who becomes the coach? Dare I say Lowe? Tank back on!!!
See ya, Corbin.
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Julie Greengiant
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What good coach would want to touch this team right now?
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I find fault with management for not hiring Horny. Everyone said he doesn't have enough experience. Well, everyone also should've realized that Horny was one of the smartest players to play in the NBA -- in my opinion, anyway -- and that he would have a better basketball mind, frankly better than Jerry, and that his potential as a coach should've been considered. So, look at what he's doing in Phoenix, winning games with a team that has no more talent than the Jazz -- much better PGs, yes, so maybe that is the difference. But still I think Horny would've been a good long term option as coach.
Park Bites
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fire corbin make alex smith interim
green
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You don't fire Corbin for two reasons:
1 - If you fire Corbin now, you basically said you never believed in Horny as a head coach. He is gone now. I don't think there is anyone on the bench you promote to intern coach. So, if you fire Corbin, you have to go get a coach from somewhere else. The big issue is, RIGHT NOW, you aren't getting George Karl, or SVG or any other decent coach. You aren't getting an up and comer from college because they are busy coaching their team. So, who do you hire? Bring back Sloan? That is about your only option right now. Sloan or Johnson. I say no way.
2 - You suck. You want Parker/Wiggins so you can get a Karl or SVG or up and coming college coach to coach for you. Corbin will give you the best shot at getting the #1 pick. Why change now? You new this was going to be rough. STAY THE COURSE. DON'T SKIP STEPS.
1 - If you fire Corbin now, you basically said you never believed in Horny as a head coach. He is gone now. I don't think there is anyone on the bench you promote to intern coach. So, if you fire Corbin, you have to go get a coach from somewhere else. The big issue is, RIGHT NOW, you aren't getting George Karl, or SVG or any other decent coach. You aren't getting an up and comer from college because they are busy coaching their team. So, who do you hire? Bring back Sloan? That is about your only option right now. Sloan or Johnson. I say no way.
2 - You suck. You want Parker/Wiggins so you can get a Karl or SVG or up and coming college coach to coach for you. Corbin will give you the best shot at getting the #1 pick. Why change now? You new this was going to be rough. STAY THE COURSE. DON'T SKIP STEPS.
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If Ty is fired mid-season, then we'll have Jerry again.
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Unfortunately, you are probably right ... stay the course with Booger.
green
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Again, don't skip steps. If you can convince SVG to take over a team with no bench and as it is currently constructed, will lose a ton and get you fired...wait...that will never happen. Also, if you know you are going to lose no matter who your coach is, why fire Ty and pay two coaches?
But, back to my first point. No intelligent coach would take over this team knowing you can't win...until this team changes. The Jazz will hire a new coach once they have their draft pick. Then the coach can come in, give input on bench players and the draft and start over next fall.
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I think Lindsey wanted about 20-23 wins with solid improvements on defense and good offensive execution in the starting group. That's not asking much, and Corbs isn't even sniffing it.
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Another reason you don't fire Ty yet:
He hasn't had a PG all year. You have to be fair to Ty (part of which, because you have no other options), and that means you can't judge him on his offense when you force him to play a terrible Lucas or a backup SG at PG. Wait until Burke comes back until you kill him with execution.
akirac73
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Try googling Lowe's head coaching record and let us know what is NOT to hate...
The Jazz Wonderbra
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It would be embarrassing to fire Ty... hmmm...
What is embarrassing is that for the first time in about 20 years our stadium was only half full. No one goes to games. Who cares what other teams think? If I were managing a team that has had 2 coaches in 25 years and 3 coaches in 30+, I don't care about embarrassing myself when I gave the third coach about 250 games to prove himself and he managed to miss the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years in spite of a 9ish game lead on the Lakers after the all-star break. A coach who has started out 1 - 12 in a league where almost 'any team can beat another on any given night'. Raja Bell and the veteran crew? With or without a point guard, Burke didn't even look good when he wasn't injured... perhaps coaching has something to do with that.
I have no idea why anyone would feel embarrassed firing him. The league would probably say... 'we would have fired him 6 times by now if he were our coach.
In spite of that, I think that the Jazz need to keep him for about 25 more games to lock in the Tank. At that point, Lionel Hollins looks awfully tempting. But, it will probably be Jerry Sloan. Corbin's staffers are all Corbin's staffers and I don't think they will rise up with his record. At the least they don't deserve to.
What is embarrassing is that for the first time in about 20 years our stadium was only half full. No one goes to games. Who cares what other teams think? If I were managing a team that has had 2 coaches in 25 years and 3 coaches in 30+, I don't care about embarrassing myself when I gave the third coach about 250 games to prove himself and he managed to miss the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years in spite of a 9ish game lead on the Lakers after the all-star break. A coach who has started out 1 - 12 in a league where almost 'any team can beat another on any given night'. Raja Bell and the veteran crew? With or without a point guard, Burke didn't even look good when he wasn't injured... perhaps coaching has something to do with that.
I have no idea why anyone would feel embarrassed firing him. The league would probably say... 'we would have fired him 6 times by now if he were our coach.
In spite of that, I think that the Jazz need to keep him for about 25 more games to lock in the Tank. At that point, Lionel Hollins looks awfully tempting. But, it will probably be Jerry Sloan. Corbin's staffers are all Corbin's staffers and I don't think they will rise up with his record. At the least they don't deserve to.
green
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Embarrassing has nothing to do with it. The main problem is, who do you bring in? Sloan is the only realistic, long-ish term answer. And do you want to bring Sloan in, win 50% of your games, and end up with the 10th pick?
Ty is the answer. When we win a title in 4-5 years, we will all look back on this season and thank Ty.
framer
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There comes a point that if Corbin goes 1 and 25 that he will HAVE to be fired. To not do so would make us a complete laughing stock. Its not like Corbin did us a favor by continuing to coach this year. He had to know that the most likely outcome was him moving on at some point. He stayed because he had no other options. There was always the chance that he could catch lightning in a bottle and over perform. THEN he might have had a chance to stay. There is no lightning in this bottle. It is to the point that HE knows he has to go. If he has a 6 win season, he will never coach again at any level. At that point he realizes this, you have to get rid of him because it could severely harm the team.
I agree, you can't move until you have the next coach figured out. I would suspect those conversations are already happening. The players seem to realize it too. At this point the Jazz owe nothing to Corbin, they have already given him more slack than any other franchise would. I think he knows this too.
I agree, you can't move until you have the next coach figured out. I would suspect those conversations are already happening. The players seem to realize it too. At this point the Jazz owe nothing to Corbin, they have already given him more slack than any other franchise would. I think he knows this too.