That's the best you could come up with?? FAIL!!
Seriously? No thread on the Iowa caucuses yet?
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That's the best you could come up with?? FAIL!!
TheSilencer1313
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Eh... I liked it. Sorry if you "FAIL!!!"
TheSilencer1313
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Franklin has spoken....
Now move on.
Now move on.
I think the implications of "went up a bit" include both that partisanship escalated, and that it was engaged in by a Democratic Congress. I recall teh Democrats as being somewhatmore relictant than the Republicans for the invasion, but not outwardly opposed to it (which I attribute to political coawardice more than anything else).
trigg3r
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You are again playing favorites. Both parties wanted to go in or they wouldn't have had the bipartisan support they had.
Democrats pushed for Iraq and were screaming WMD at the top of their lungs under Bill Clinton. It was his intel and the democrats increasingly aggresive threats that paved the path for Bush to go in. He started the fiasco in 1998 when he bombed several facilities for being suspected of WMD. Clinton was a fan of that, bombing aspirine factories and such, then flying the planes off while bragging in the media at home about killing inocent victims as a cost of war... It really is no wonder Bush and Patraeus had such a hard time winning over the love of the Arabs.
Rudy Giuliani was spot on when he said the shift in war suppport was all about picking up seats in 2002. The timeline went from pushing for war before submitting to a populist stance in several districts, then transitioning into a no unilateral stance, and finishing by completely whitewashing their involvement from the memories of average voters.
GVC
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Looks like I gave you a serious headcase of cognitive dissonance.
Bill Clinton's bombings in Arab lands spurred deeply negative sentiment area wide. The Syrian bombings in particular were used as anti-American propoganda from Algeria to Afghanistan. Media clips of Clinton bragging up his peacemaking bombings and killing innocent civilians being a justified price were repeatedly broadcast across the Arab world.
You shouldn't get so offended by facts.
GVC
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I think you've missed my point somehow. Do you really think Anti-American sentiment in the middle east (and American aggression toward Iraq) had its genesis in the late 90's? Really?
Anyway, I'm going to bow out of this thread that I should never have entered in the first place.
Anyway, I'm going to bow out of this thread that I should never have entered in the first place.
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OK dude. There's been conflict in the middle east for a gazillion years. Let's blame it on the ****ing dinosaurs.
Your point was to form an irrelevent conclusion by putting a ridiculous argument into my mouth that you know I never offered. Bravo, troll. Do you really lack the ability to segregate time periods or draw meaningful conclusions from sentiment measures?
Both parties agree to go in. You can agree to do something without desiring to do it.