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50 years ago the cure for most of these "learning disorders" was a swift kick in the ***.... A belt....

Now kids run the asylum while doctors and those providing the pills are happy to oblige....

Personally, I agree with what some others have said, discipline and actually *gasp* saying NO can go a long way to curing these problems.
 
I weep for a child born with an autism-spectrum disorder to Scat, Gojazz79, or The Thriller.

That is, I would weep, if I really thought their internet-tough-guy persona would carry over into treating a real child like that.
 
I weep for a child born with an autism-spectrum disorder to Scat, Gojazz79, or The Thriller.

That is, I would weep, if I really thought their internet-tough-guy persona would carry over into treating a real child like that.

Because we clearly said that all learning disorders are fake and that beating children will cure them of things like Down Syndrome. Stop being a drama queen. Saying children need discipline and parenting is in no way a tough guy routine. That does not even make sense.

They diagnosed my daughter with ADD which is a learning disorder. They wanted to put her on medication. I said no. I hunkered down and spent extra time with her on her homework, manners and respect. Guess what, she is doing fine now. That is called parenting. It has been around for a while.

So I will tell you the same thing I told KOC. I am open for debate but stop with the bullcrap or I have no more use for you.
 
Because we clearly said that all learning disorders are fake and that beating children will cure them of things like Down Syndrome.

Sorry, I thought when you referred to "these disorders", you were using the pronoun to refer to the same thing Scat mentions, autism, as opposed to some arbitrary, unspecified range of disorders. I apologize for misunderstanding you by expecting standard English usage, I know it is not your first language.

They diagnosed my daughter with ADD which is a learning disorder. They wanted to put her on medication. I said no. I hunkered down and spent extra time with her on her homework, manners and respect. Guess what, she is doing fine now. That is called parenting. It has been around for a while.

Thank you for the irrelevant example.
 
Sorry, I thought when you referred to "these disorders", you were using the pronoun to refer to the same thing Scat mentions, autism, as opposed to some arbitrary, unspecified range of disorders. I apologize for misunderstanding you by expecting standard English usage, I know it is not your first language.



Thank you for the irrelevant example.

I gave the warning. Your loss. Have fun debating yourself you hack.
 
I weep for a child born with an autism-spectrum disorder to Scat, Gojazz79, or The Thriller.

That is, I would weep, if I really thought their internet-tough-guy persona would carry over into treating a real child like that.

Don't get your panties in a knot. Just stop. No one is seriously advocating the senseless beating down and abuse of kids. Gain a sense of humor, tough guy.

But I would endorse what Gojazz did with his child. I believe more than 50 % of these social/mental disorders could be resolved with parents getting involved. Whether is be with more structure, discipline, TLC, a religious organization, a sports organization, some sort of musical or art organization... So many options when it comes to childhood. The worst thing IMO to do is to force pills down their throats, declare them broken and give them excuses to fail, (oh I have ADD so I can't do x), and let them rot in the schools without being involved in anything constructive or having any structure.

I've seen these cases so many times.
 
Don't get your panties in a knot. Just stop. No one is seriously advocating the beating down and abuse of kids. Gain a sense of humor, tough guy.

But I would endorse what Gojazz did with his child. I believe more than 50 % of these social/mental disorders could be resolved with parents getting involved. Whether is be with more structure, discipline, TLC, a religious organization, a sports organization, some sort of musical or art organization... So many options when it comes to childhood. The worst thing IMO to do is to force pills down their throats, declare them broken and give them excuses to fail, (oh I have ADD so I can't do x), and let them rot in the schools without being involved in anything constructive or having any structure.

I've seen these cases so many times.

What!? Parenting?????!!!123 Easy there tuff guy...SMH
 
So many parents just don't parent their kids. They treat them as they would coworkers and friends. That's not what they need folks.

Being involved in both serving at a restaurant and working in public education, I've seen this time after time after time.

So many parents (at least half) ask their kids what they want to drink. Of course, children will go for the most unhealthy drink/expensive on possible/whatever their parents ordered. You'd be surprised how many kids (under the age of 8) order Coke. Seriously?

Kids already have problems sitting still. Loading them up with caffeine? Not a great idea.

I've noticed a huge difference between that, letting kids have full reign, and those families where the parents offer OPTIONS. Even better, HEALTHY options. milk or orange juice? Giving these kids structure and treating them as CHILDREN goes a long way.

You'd be surprised how many parents just let their kids run around, trash the restaurant, do whatever they want....

The perfect example was this young family viisiting from Jersey. While eating, their young child had spilled a few things on the floor. It wasn't real dirty. I later saw their father picking up the crumbs off the floor. I went over there and told him to not worry about it and that I would sweep it up. He said that it was too embarrassing. The father, took pride in his work. The parents, did not let their kids do whatever they wanted. They were *gasp* actually involved!

Interestingly enough, their children were the most orderly children I've ever seen at the restaurant. Gee, I wonder why

In public education, it's even more obvious. The children with structure, have much more respect, are success oriented, and actually give a damn.

Those others without parenting, without discipline, without structure, WITH all of these excuses err social/learning disorders, are problems. Then, they have excuses to not be involved in any sport, any organization, any learning opportunity because ber her her they're disabled and will always need to be "handed out" something in life. They can't actually STRIVE for it and ACCOMPLISH anything because of x disorder.

Parenting isn't as complicated as so many of you want it to be.

Like a coach to a sports team, children need to know what's expected, that you actually care, need to have structure, and need to be taught to strive. If one truly has a learning disorder, don't just wave the white flag and surrender. But FIGHT.

One last example, this friend of mine was diagnosed with two significant learning disorders. One, involved her ability to focus and read. Difficult to sit and study when you struggle to read! Instead of stuffing her face with pills or waving the white flag, she fought through it. She decided she would do anything for her HS dilpoma. She and her parents worked together. She talked to teachers, who would closely with her. She got it.

She's now about done with college.

Awesome.

It's amazing what can be accomplished with a little mental toughness, structure, and hard work.
 
I weep for a child born with an autism-spectrum disorder to Scat, Gojazz79, or The Thriller.

That is, I would weep, if I really thought their internet-tough-guy persona would carry over into treating a real child like that.

Treat a child like what? Tell me, where did I say I would treat an autism-spectrum child in any specific manner that would give you cause to weep?
 
Treat a child like what? Tell me, where did I say I would treat an autism-spectrum child in any specific manner that would give you cause to weep?

I tried to warn him back into normal debate and actually come up with why he disagreed instead of drama responses. Didn't work so now I have an ignore list.
 
I tried to warn him back into normal debate and actually come up with why he disagreed instead of drama responses. Didn't work so now I have an ignore list.

You'll find that Unibrow is actually one of the biggest trolls on this site.
 
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