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Should the NBA abolish the 3 point line?

Rubashov

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So I miss the elegance and footwork of great low post play and hate the way that analytics has removed the midrange and post game from the sport. I like the idea of pushing the 3 point line back significantly, there should always be a place in the game for a dagger but it should be harder. Discuss
 
Dammit I wanted a poll

Poll choices

1. Yes
2. No
3 Push the line back and eliminate the corner 3
4 Trial the pushed back line in the in season tournament to see what happens
5 I don't know
 
Moving the 3pt line back isnt going to do anything other than make players better at shooting long 3's. It might take a certain amount of time to adjust, but the adjustment will happen. Players wont suddenly start taking more middys just because the 3pt line is further back.

You have to make the relative value of the long shot smaller. If you want more mid-range shots you have to let bigs stay in the paint longer.
 
So we're bringing back the old illegal defense rules too?

It's not all about the 3pt shot. In the old days, everything was geared toward as many 1-on-1 matchups as possible, favoring star scorers.
 
Not going to happen, but they should remove the defensive 3 seconds rule, allow more contact on the perimeter, and also enforce carrying on the perimeter. Everyone talks about hand checking…it’s more that a perimeter guy and just infinitely run into the defender and eventually get a call. Luka is the king of this.

Playing on the perimeter is so much easier because the defenders can hardly breathe on offensive player and the ball handlers also get to carry the ball.

IMO, they’ve actually allowed the more contact on postups over the years as small ball has become more popular. If it’s a smaller guy defending a bigger player in the post, the small guy can beat the hell out of the bigger player and use all his strength to create contact. If it’s the other way around on the perimeter you’ve got a taller player trying to stick with a smaller guy who can carry the ball and gets a whistle if there’s a slight touch.
 
Move it back. And if the league starts hitting it at a better than a 33% rate, move it back again until it reaches the half court line. And if the can start hitting it from there over 33%, tip your hat to them. They've perfected the game of basketball.
 
Playing on the perimeter is so much easier

No way. In the "old days", you could create favorable 1-on-1 isolations on the perimeter by simply moving the other four dudes (and their defenders) to the weak side. Doubling the ballhandler far from the basket was super risky because you actually had to double instead of hang around in no-man's land in case the ballhandler beats the first line of defense.

In theory, team defenses have many more tools to stop scoring perimeter players these days. However, offenses have evolved even more than defenses.

I can't watch 80's or 90's NBA basketball anymore. In general it's incredibly slow, unathletic (yes I know there were exceptions) and the defense is laughable compared to the modern game.

Today's NBA game does have some problems that have to be solved, but going back in time is not the answer.
 
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No way. In the "old days", you could create favorable 1-on-1 isolations on the perimeter by simply moving the other four dudes (and their defenders) to the weak side. Doubling the ballhandler far from the basket was super risky because you actually had to double instead of hanging around in no-man's land in case the ballhandler beats the first line of defense.

In theory, team defenses have many more tools to stop scoring perimeter players these days. However, offenses have evolved even more than defenses.

I can't watch 80's or 90's NBA basketball anymore. In general it's incredibly slow, unathletic (yes I know there were exceptions) and the defense is laughable compared to the modern game.

Today's NBA game does have some problems that have to be solved, but going back in time is not the answer.

I meant in comparison to playing in the post/paint. I do not care to go back in time where the basketball was horrible. Going back in time is definitely not what I want. My post was trying to say that the balance of playing from the perimeter vs playing from the post is extremely advantageous to perimeter players.
 
I wouldn't mind seeing modifications, whether it is a cap or moving the line out or just eliminating the corner 3 by extending the lines so the arc ends at the sideline. I don't know, but I find the constant barrage of 3 pointers boring as ****. I would love to see them move the line out another 18 inches and terminate it at the sideline with no option for a corner 3. Mix it up a bit.

Although I do seem to remember that JxmyHighroller on youtube did an analysis showing that in recent years the 2 point shot has kind of caught up with the 3 pointer for value, based on shooting percentages. Although this is largely because we have become a league of either the 3 pointer or the lay-up/dunk with virtually nothing in between. I would love to see some changes that mix this up a bit more, as the current product is just boring as hell.
 
Do the people who hate the 3 so much love players like Demar Derozan? I feel like if the three was the issue, then a guy like DDR should be one of the most popular players in the NBA.

Was Trey Burke yalls favorite player when we he played here? He loved taking mid-range jumpers out of the PNR.
 
Do the people who hate the 3 so much love players like Demar Derozan? I feel like if the three was the issue, then a guy like DDR should be one of the most popular players in the NBA.

Was Trey Burke yalls favorite player when we he played here? He loved taking mid-range jumpers out of the PNR.

That's like me asking you if your favourite player 2 decades ago was Antoine Walker because you like the three-point line. You can't take bad(Burke) to middling(DeMar) players and use them as your example.
 
Do the people who hate the 3 so much love players like Demar Derozan? I feel like if the three was the issue, then a guy like DDR should be one of the most popular players in the NBA.

Was Trey Burke yalls favorite player when we he played here? He loved taking mid-range jumpers out of the PNR.
There is a HUGE difference between ****** shot selection and the general flow of the game from a design perspective. Of course no one loves players taking the bad shot and right now, the way the game is designed essentially, is to have them jack up tons of 3s. That is what is most efficient and some people find that boring. I would like to see a game re-design so that other modes of scoring, including mid-range, or big-man rumble to the basket, etc. can be used nearly as efficiently, or at least be viewed as a viable option. But the game is currently designed to generate a ton of 3s and, if that option is taken away somehow, drives to the rim to try to open up more 3s or at least get a layup. And that is about it. I for one would like to see a minor design adjustments to nerf the 3 point shot somewhat to encourage other game plans besides dribble-pass-shoot a 3- rinse and repeat.

Frankly right now the most entertaining team to watch is Denver. They have so much off-ball movement and Jokich is such a masterful player, they are just fun to watch. Consequently they are in the bottom third of the league for the 3 point shot, and they are winning well below their potential. because the game is currently designed to reward those who jack up the most 3s. Period. I would love to see that changed somehow.
 
NBA fans: WE WANT LESS EFFICIENT BASKETBALL WITH LOTS OF BAD SHOTS, CLOGGED UP PAINTS AND CHAOTIC POST PLAY!

College basketball: exists
No we want to see the best athletes in the world actually challenged on the court, not just performing shooting drills. Are you saying you just love games where they shoot 60 3 pointers between both teams? So better would be 100 shot between both teams. You would much rather see LeBron jack up 3s repeatedly instead of weaving in and out of traffic creating and making stuff happen? What a boring game that would be. Yikes.
 
So I miss the elegance and footwork of great low post play and hate the way that analytics has removed the midrange and post game from the sport. I like the idea of pushing the 3 point line back significantly, there should always be a place in the game for a dagger but it should be harder. Discuss
One way to combat the overuse of the 3-point shot is to change the scoring. Make baskets worth 3 points and have a 4-pointer. That way the analytics will move back to scoring closer to the basket. Right now it is better to shoot more 3s because of the numbers.
 
One way to combat the overuse of the 3-point shot is to change the scoring. Make baskets worth 3 points and have a 4-pointer. That way the analytics will move back to scoring closer to the basket.
That too has already been suggested and discussed ages ago and will never happen. Changing basketball scoring in such a fundamental way just because a bunch of bored NBA fans have decided they want more drop steps would be bizarre.
 
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