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Should we put a sin tax on Carbonic Acid????

babe

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One evil that has flown a long way under the radar is the very addictive and widely used poison, carbonic acid. Purveyors of this deadly toxic pollutant, now being considered by some a threat to the planets whole biosphere, hide it's evils with another poison now being linked to some of our major health epidemics, high-fructose corn syrup, or various flavors, and load it with yet another controversial bioactive chemical known to impact the control and regulation of practically every aspect of cellular function, caffeine.

While the evil corporates whose livelihood depends upon our massive use of their product have inordinate influence with every branch of our government, there is no chance anyone will ever raise a peep about regulation, truth-in-advertising, or any other consumer-friendly type of concessions. And we will never complain, either.

It all goes to show what afflicts the minds of "fools on the hill" who understand the facts of human behaviors and fully realize we are, as a society, a Ship of Fools. I truly do not understand why cows are not herding us, and shipping us to the butchers, for all our enlightenment as we imagine it.

But in any discussion of taxation, as we ply the issues of "regressive taxation" that disproportionately retards economic advances and/or is going to be paid principally by the poor and ignorant masses as opposed to being paid by elites who just have too much to begin with, I submit that a tax on carbonic acid would, like every other tax we have ever imagined, be paid entirely by the poor downtrodden masses who have no private charities registered with the nearest "Community Trust" broker, no tax lawyers, and no lobbyists.

But at least it would not directly create a marketable asset owned entirely by elites, and paid for entirely by consumers, like the proposed tax on its gas form would.
 
One evil that has flown a long way under the radar is the very addictive and widely used poison, carbonic acid. Purveyors of this deadly toxic pollutant, now being considered by some a threat to the planets whole biosphere, hide it's evils with another poison now being linked to some of our major health epidemics, high-fructose corn syrup, or various flavors, and load it with yet another controversial bioactive chemical known to impact the control and regulation of practically every aspect of cellular function, caffeine.

While the evil corporates whose livelihood depends upon our massive use of their product have inordinate influence with every branch of our government, there is no chance anyone will ever raise a peep about regulation, truth-in-advertising, or any other consumer-friendly type of concessions. And we will never complain, either.

It all goes to show what afflicts the minds of "fools on the hill" who understand the facts of human behaviors and fully realize we are, as a society, a Ship of Fools. I truly do not understand why cows are not herding us, and shipping us to the butchers, for all our enlightenment as we imagine it.

But in any discussion of taxation, as we ply the issues of "regressive taxation" that disproportionately retards economic advances and/or is going to be paid principally by the poor and ignorant masses as opposed to being paid by elites who just have too much to begin with, I submit that a tax on carbonic acid would, like every other tax we have ever imagined, be paid entirely by the poor downtrodden masses who have no private charities registered with the nearest "Community Trust" broker, no tax lawyers, and no lobbyists.

But at least it would not directly create a marketable asset owned entirely by elites, and paid for entirely by consumers, like the proposed tax on its gas form would.

I think you are missing the big picture here. Caramel coloring is the true evil that needs to be dealt with.
 
I think you are missing the big picture here. Caramel coloring is the true evil that needs to be dealt with.

Not in tonnage terms, my poor deluded Mormon friend. But I understand the Mormon position is not based upon tonnage, but upon appearances, with an exception for herbs that are not specifically known as "tea". But with historic prejudices against drinks that relied upon cocaine as an extra "hook" on the consumer. Positively clear solutions of caffeine or anything else are morally justifiable since there is no "appearance of evil".
 
I think a flat tax would be best for everyone and we should go that route.
Less taxation.
Yes, carbonation, high fructose corn syrup, the colorings, and all of that are worse for us than most people realize as they down it by the gallon.
Taxing is not the way to go my partially insane friend, even if taxing it gives off the appearance that we care about people's health and the world in general.
 
Not in tonnage terms, my poor deluded Mormon friend. But I understand the Mormon position is not based upon tonnage, but upon appearances, with an exception for herbs that are not specifically known as "tea". But with historic prejudices against drinks that relied upon cocaine as an extra "hook" on the consumer. Positively clear solutions of caffeine or anything else are morally justifiable since there is no "appearance of evil".

If you are going by sheer volume then the real evil is the amount of Hydric acid found in every drink. Even Kool-aide and hot chocolate don't get a pass on this one. It is by far and away the chemical found in greatest volume in any drink. Here are some of the evils of this substance:

- Hydric acid contributes to global warming and the "Greenhouse Effect", and is one of the so-called "greenhouse gasses."
- Hydric acid is an "enabling component" of acid rain -- in the absence of sufficient quantities of Hydric acid, acid rain is not a problem.
- Hydric acid is a causative agent in most instances of soil erosion -- sufficiently high levels of Hydric acid exacerbate the negative effects of soil erosion.
- Hydric acid is present in high levels nearly every creek, stream, pond, river, lake and reservoir in the U.S. and around the world.
- Measurable levels of Hydric acid have been verified in ice samples taken from both the Arctic and Antarctic ice caps.
- Recent massive Hydric acid exposures have lead to the loss of life and destruction of property in California, the Mid-West, the Philippines, and a number of islands in the Caribbean, to name just a few.
- Research has shown that significant levels of Hydric acid were found in the devastating Indian Ocean tsunami in 2004 which killed 230,000 in Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia and elsewhere, making it the deadliest tsunami in recorded history.
- It is widely believed that the levee failures, flooding and the widespread destruction resulting from Hurricane Katrina along the U.S. Gulf Coast in 2005 were caused or exacerbated by excessive Hydric acid levels found in the Gulf of Mexico, along with other contributing factors.
- Hydric acid was instumental in the destruction of the nuclear reactors at Fukashima in Japan.

In addition, Hydric acid is deadly to humans if ingested in a large enough quantity. A very small amount will kill you if you inhale it.

It is such an evil compound that industry has given it a number of names to hide it from the public including Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO), Dihydrogen Oxide, Hydrogen Hydroxide & Hydronium Hydroxide. it is a colorless and odorless chemical compound. Its basis is the highly reactive hydroxyl radical, a species shown to mutate DNA, denature proteins, disrupt cell membranes, and chemically alter critical neurotransmitters. The atomic components of DHMO are found in a number of caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol.

Yes, you drink this stuff daily. Ban it now!!
 
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I stand corrected Pepsi Max, Diet Pepsi Max, and Sunkist 10 have the most of the soda drinks at 69mg.
Dr. Pepper is down the list at 41 mg, below drinks like Diet Sunkist, Shasta Cola, and RC Cola.

https://www.energyfiend.com/the-caffeine-database

By the way, the caffeine in soda is very tame compared to the caffeine in Red Bull (80), Coffee (108), and ALRI Hypershot (500).
 
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