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Sign and trade ideas for Boozer.

I'm as guilty as meandering a bit off topic as you were. I was just trying to tug it back to the topic title. Brand seems like so much a risk for #2. And I'm unsure Boozer and #9 is enough value for it anyway.
 
I'm as guilty as meandering a bit off topic as you were. I was just trying to tug it back to the topic title. Brand seems like so much a risk for #2. And I'm unsure Boozer and #9 is enough value for it anyway.

Haha, looks like I'm gonna continue to take this off topic a bit but I don't mean Boozer and 9 for Brand and 2 (for obvious reasons)......AK as an expiring and 9 for Brand and 2, IMO, IS worth it. Again, taking on that contract is no where near ideal but say Turner turns into a Roy type 20/5/5 kinda guy that can create his own shot and be a perennial all-star. We will never get a guy like that in free agency......EVER. We have to draft one, and IMO, need to make concessions to do it.

Sorry, last post off topic here.
 
Yeah, my mistake, I meant Tom Gugliotta. And the reason I brought that up was to show that it's better to be under the cap than over it so you can pull off such deals. That was using the flexibilty the Jazz had. The Jazz were one of three teams under the cap in 2003-2004 and used it to gain an asset, the Knick pick. www.goodpayer.com/netgain/Net Gain Lesson 8.pdf

And as I mentioned before, the last time the Jazz had this flung about word, "flexibility," they signed Boozer and Okur, who both turned out quite well.

Yes, theoretically it would be nice to be under the cap so we can get more deals like that sent our way, but the only way we are under the cap in the near future is if we are in complete rebuilding mode, so these ideals tend to be mutually exclusive. So we will not be under the cap to sign a Boozer or an Okur. Especially considering that at that time we had to overpay to get them.

With regard to trading for Brand, these are the kind of deals we have to make. We can't plan around saving our chips until one day we cash them in for some huge superstar. The best deals that are going to come along where we cash in our chips would be things like a Kirilenko/#9 for Brand/#2. If we want something good we've got to give up something valuable in return (in this case cap space). If we pass on a deal like that to "conserve" our cap space for 'that day' when 'that guy' decides he wants to play in Utah and we are under the cap enough to obtain him, we will find that day will not come... and should it come we'd be faced with some bigger problems as due to the fact that we would be under the cap enough to sign him, it would be rather indicative of how good our team is (you don't see many teams with enough competitive players to be a contender if they're that far under the cap).
 
Yes, theoretically it would be nice to be under the cap so we can get more deals like that sent our way, but the only way we are under the cap in the near future is if we are in complete rebuilding mode, so these ideals tend to be mutually exclusive. So we will not be under the cap to sign a Boozer or an Okur. Especially considering that at that time we had to overpay to get them.

With regard to trading for Brand, these are the kind of deals we have to make. We can't plan around saving our chips until one day we cash them in for some huge superstar. The best deals that are going to come along where we cash in our chips would be things like a Kirilenko/#9 for Brand/#2. If we want something good we've got to give up something valuable in return (in this case cap space). If we pass on a deal like that to "conserve" our cap space for 'that day' when 'that guy' decides he wants to play in Utah and we are under the cap enough to obtain him, we will find that day will not come... and should it come we'd be faced with some bigger problems as due to the fact that we would be under the cap enough to sign him, it would be rather indicative of how good our team is (you don't see many teams with enough competitive players to be a contender if they're that far under the cap).

Not to mention DWill will bolt the first sign the Jazz are packing it in to go in a mini rebuilding mode. Turner would be a pretty good fit for the Jazz, he could even play PG when Deron goes out eliminating the never ending seach for a decent backup there.
 
I know its old but Boozer for Lee still makes sense. Do Lee and Millsap play too much alike to play together?

I think that Lee would demand too much money for it to make sense. I like Lee, but he really is a borderline all-star and not someone that will want to kill the salary cap over
 
80% of you don't understand why the Jazz need flexibility. It's not to go out and buy other teams' free agents, having the money allows the team to keep players they may acquire in the draft or in a trade. Right now, the Jazz are trying to stay under the LT yet will have close to $30 million tied up in ****-ing AK and Memo. Regardless of whether you like Boozer or not, you have to admit he's a lot more important to the team than either or that he could conceivably be used in a S&T to get back another good/great player. However, any realistic appraisal of the situation suggests the Jazz are out an all-star, their 2nd best player, and the big they run their sets through for nothing.

That's why you try to maintain flexibility, so you don't just have to let assets go for nothing. Or dumping assets currently under contract to be rid of a toxic contract (Maynor, Brand rumors). The Memo signing all but assured that. ****-ing awesome job, Gail.
 
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