Sixers ready to part ways with Igoudala.

[NUMBERICA]

I've always been lukewarm on Iguodala. I'd prefer the Jazz go with young, cheap, and have the ability or the potential to develop a requisite skillset (in Iggy's case, shooting the ****ing ball) than go with an albatross deal for a guy that can cause you Rondo-esque floor-spacing concerns.

If Iggy could shoot, he might be a superstar. The guy is a prolific player, but shooting is one of the pillars of the game, especially for a perimeter player. I love that he can find space off the ball yet handle it and get his teammates shots. I love that he rebounds. I love that he's been their defensive workhorse at the same time and you can probably switch him onto almost anyone on the court. But the shooting thing... it's hard for me. At least at that price tag.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Haven't we already tried this experiment before? An overpaid wing that doesn't have range outside of a dunk?

If we really want Iggy we could just resign AK for much cheaper.

 

[underKANTER]

He's overpaid, like 4 millions a year as he deserves. He is almost paid like a superstar, but i would think about it. An athletic wing that can pass, play defense and drive to the basket, why not? depends on whether we can resign AK for 6/year or not.

 

[billyshelby]

That's a very interesting name that I've thought about quite a bit. While I've said all along that I'd like to see Sap play the 3 before trading him away, Granger is one of those players that I would have no problem trading Sap for. Having his scoring ability in this offense would free up Favors/Jefferson so much it would be scary. Is Indiana entertaining the idea of moving him?

Trading Sap and the #12 for Granger and landing Brandon Knight @ #6 would pretty much be a dream offseason for me.

No Granger deal happens without giving up the 6. And we'd need to take back one of their bad contracts. It would look something like Granger/Posey for #6/Memo/CJ and that's not enough (doesn't quite work under the CBA, either, but it's close) They'd push for the 12 or, more likely, next year's GS pick to be included as well.

If Sap is in the deal, that lowers the price on picks, but I'd bet KOC wants to deal picks/lesser players for Granger, not guys like Sap. My guess is he'd offer the 6 and 12 and hold out on the GS pick.

 

[NUMBERICA]

FWIW, he holds his opponent to a 9.8 PER while he produces 18.3 (best on the team). His adjusted +/- (+4.5) is second best on the team. By 82games.com's simple rating rank he is first and it's not close.

 

[billyshelby]

Iggy was hurt at the end of the year and into the playoffs. Knee, I think. He makes too much, anyway. I just can't see KOC being interested.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

I don't think Utah goes after Iggy because of the extra year on his contract. Jazz don't have any non-rookie contracts past 12-13, and Iguodala has his own option for 13-14.

It's not a definite no, however. Jazz would need to be +/- roughly two million under current CBA rules to be able to trade for him, so around 11.5-15.5 million in salary heading back.

Scenarios include:

Okur + Bell/Miles
Millsap + Miles (but not Bell)
Jefferson straight up.
Harris + Miles/Bell

Don't think any of that is all that appealing to the Sixers. Would have to add draft picks and/or Hayward and/or Favors, and I'm not terribly thrilled with doing the latter two.

 

[NUMBERICA]

No Granger deal happens without giving up the 6. And we'd need to take back one of their bad contracts. It would look something like Granger/Posey for #6/Memo/CJ and that's not enough (doesn't quite work under the CBA, either, but it's close) They'd push for the 12 or, more likely, next year's GS pick to be included as well.

If Sap is in the deal, that lowers the price on picks, but I'd bet KOC wants to deal picks/lesser players for Granger, not guys like Sap. My guess is he'd offer the 6 and 12 and hold out on the GS pick.

With them already having Hansbrough and McRoberts, I think they might find Jefferson more appealing (though Sap is more than just an undersized hustle-player now). That goes for any trade.

 

[billyshelby]

With them already having Hansbrough and McRoberts, I think they might find Jefferson more appealing (though Sap is more than just an undersized hustle-player now). That goes for any trade.

Yeah, Jefferson could be a possibility. But that's much more of a straight up type deal. The problem is I can't see KOC thinning out our frontcourt so much to do it. Right or wrong, I think KOC is pretty committed to keeping the trio of Jeff/Sap/Favors unless he's getting a big back.

 

[NAOS]

Yeah, Jefferson could be a possibility. But that's much more of a straight up type deal. The problem is I can't see KOC thinning out our frontcourt so much to do it. Right or wrong, I think KOC is pretty committed to keeping the trio of Jeff/Sap/Favors unless he's getting a big back.

But what if the BPA at 6 is another big? I'd draft Biyombo and send Jefferson for Granger in a more-or-less straight-up deal in a bloody heartbeat.

 

[NAOS]

FWIW, he holds his opponent to a 9.8 PER while he produces 18.3 (best on the team). His adjusted +/- (+4.5) is second best on the team. By 82games.com's simple rating rank he is first and it's not close.

sorry, are you talking about Granger or Iggy?

 

[billyshelby]

But what if the BPA at 6 is another big? I'd draft Biyombo and send Jefferson for Granger in a more-or-less straight-up deal in a bloody heartbeat.

This is where I differ with most people. Whatever big we get at 6 is not likely to be ready for anything but a rotation role, and might not be ready period. I doubt KOC has chalked up next year to one big losing season where young guys learn. Going into the season with Sap/Favors starting, and an iffy Memo + the 6 is basically guaranteeing disaster.

By contrast, drafting a big at 6 WITH Al/Sap/Favors/Memo means one of 2 things: A) the guy can be brought along slowly; B) He can be stashed overseas for a year to develop without starting his NBA salary clock. I'm thinking KOC likes the 'B' option.