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So what's wrong with polygamy (polyamory)?

colton said:
Serious question: how do you feel about incest between adults? I.e., if a father & grown daughter, or a brother & sister, wanted to get married. Are you OK with that? Should it be legal? (Let's assume they take steps to prevent children due to potential birth defects.)
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Are you a Morgan Freeman fan by chance?

Edit: That's his step-granddaughter. It's all gooood.
 
jazzman12 said:
I actually believe that there should be a cap on how many dependants you claim on your taxes. If you want to go out and have 7 kids, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. However, from a tax stand point it seems awful to me that the person claiming 7 kids is getting thousands more in tax breaks than say the person who's claiming 2 kids. Most likely the guy with 7 kids is either paying a reduced school lunch fee or none at all, reduced school registration fees or none at all and so on. Meanwhile, the family with two kids are paying full price for everything. It's almost as if we punish Americans who don't overpopulate.

It seems wrong that the people who have the most children and put more burdens on the school system, etc. are also the same people who rake in cash windfalls at tax time each year. They get rewarded at both ends of the spectrum while the average Joe with the average size family goes through life paying full cost for everything.
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At least two problems with your logic:

1) The kids, once grown, are going to contribute 7x as many taxes (and as much productivity, etc) as the only child would. You are completely not factoring that into your equation.

2) If the kids really do need reduced or free school lunches, and you deprive them of that--it's not the parents who will suffer the most, it is the kids.
 
SalmonHobo said:
Are you a Morgan Freeman fan by chance?

Edit: That's his step-granddaughter. It's all gooood.
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No, didn't know about that. I do like Morgan Freeman as an actor, but have no idea about what he's like as a person.

Come to think of it, didn't Woody Allen also marry his step-daughter? Conversely, I'm really not much of a fan of his acting (or directing).
 
colton said:
At least two problems with your logic:

1) The kids, once grown, are going to contribute 7x as many taxes (and as much productivity, etc) as the only child would. You are completely not factoring that into your equation.

2) If the kids really do need reduced or free school lunches, and you deprive them of that--it's not the parents who will suffer the most, it is the kids.
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As far as the kids going on to contribute 7x as many taxes, you're being extremely liberal with that. Yes, in some cases that may be what happens, but that doesn't mean it will be the rule in most cases. Most kids from large families usually tend to have large families themselves. So what you have is 7 kids growing up and having a similar number of children and the pattern of tax loopholes continue. It's not a reach to see how that cycle repeats itself. Most large families are born out of religious idealism. Those ideals are obviously going to be passed down to the children leaving the nest.

As far as the free school lunches, I never said that the children should be deprived. I just think the parents should be expected to handle more of the responsibility. Obviously, that's never going to happen.
 
Incest is a weird one. Looking at scholars who study sexuality you will see every culture has an incest taboo, it's pretty much the only universal cultural taboo of any kind.

I'm not sure if that means anything or not, but it seems significant.
 
First of all, DutchJazzer, you're an idiot.

I think the entire argument hinges on whether or not you think homosexuality is a choice. If you do, then the argument that legalizing gay marriage opens the door for plural marriages has merit. If you don't think homosexuality is a choice, then the two concepts are incomparable.

My question is, why would anybody choose to be gay? It seems like the difficulty of leading such a lifestyle would be enough to keep almost anyone from choosing it. However, there are 11.7 million gay people in the United States alone (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_demographics_of_the_United_States) which almost matches the total world population of Mormon people (https://www.mormonwiki.org/Population_and_growth_rate).

My point isn't to degrade LDS people, it is to point out that most young men from Utah go on missions to present people the choice of becoming a part of their faith. I have never met a missionary with the same purposes for homosexuality.
 
You have met someone who purposefully goes door to door to spread the message of homosexuality? Really??
 
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