The Jazz didn't work out Koufos, either. Look how badly that has turned out, except some morons still think that he and Fesenko should have been getting minutes at the expense of the team. Good thing those brain-deads aren't evaluating talent.
So who would of you picked?
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The Jazz didn't work out Koufos, either. Look how badly that has turned out, except some morons still think that he and Fesenko should have been getting minutes at the expense of the team. Good thing those brain-deads aren't evaluating talent.
I agree. Any more? Or is drafting in the late rounds a crap shoot that most teams hit or miss on?
Hayward playing in the Horizon Conference didn't really face top competition for most of his games either. Comparing Hayward to George, Hayward only shot 46% in his sophomore year compared to George's 42%. However, George also shot 47% his freshman year and 90% from the line in his sophomore year. He shot lights out in the combine and in most of his workouts. Hayward only shot 39% from the field in his last 5 games in this year's tournament against nationally-ranked teams. George averaged more points and assists than Hayward this year. George is a very skilled player. At 6'9" he's practically as tall as Lamar Odom, and if he pans out, he could be a borderline All-Star. If Hayward pans out....well, I'm not sure it makes that much difference to a team trying to get to the WCF. Who knows though...
In spite of Hayward facing top competition and winning in NCAA tourney on the biggest stage, his FG% turned out to be overall respectable 46.4 (in spite of shooting 2-11 in the title game). George was not good enough to take his team anywhere, did not play at all at the same stage Hayward did, and still his % was lowly 42.4. The fact he shot better as a freshman is not exactly comforting, because we already know when his role increased, his shooting % went to crap. Hayward was a leader for #2 team in nation and shot overall respectable percentage. Huge difference here. Also, Hayward led his team to 25 straight wins and won under 19 World championships for US and made all tournament team there. The guys just wins and performs well at pretty much the highest stages up to this point. Geroge in that sense is much more iffy. His biggest accomplishment last year is combine performance (just like Snyder) - that should tell you something. And as far as Odom, his differentiating asset was superb ball handling and rebounding from that forward spot, something Hayward does much better than George.
Yep, winners win, and this kid has won A LOT when he wasn't supposed to. I'm not making any predictions, but I'm more than willing to give him a chance.
Gyp Rosetti
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You're high if you think George's height and standing reach are anywhere near Lamar Odom's.
Why are you continuing to sweat George? It's already been shown that Babbitt was better than him in most statistics/measurements.
it is illogical to after-the-fact take a list of players who were drafted below where they should have been picked, and using this to support the fact that the Jazz are inept at drafting. Every team in the NBA can be argued to inept using the same logic. Or, viewed differently, you could say that no one is capable of predicting how good a player will be in the NBA. This last view seems the most credible and also the most obvious. It is true in every sport. It is true everywhere. Take an engineer (or accountant, or anyone), take their college transcript and interviews, you might be able to predict based on GPA, etc, how well someone is going to do professionally. You will blow more than you get right, because there are too many uncertainties and intangibles (who is going to have personal problems that get in the way, start drinking heavily, not get the right supervisor/coach, the right opportunities, etc, etc.....)
I find the opposite to be true, finding it hard to believe that the scouts, etc, get it as right as they do.
Shaggy
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Whiteside was a 2nd round pick, you do know that, right? Could you imagine the out cry from Jazzfanz if we kept trading back and back and back to get Whiteside. The Knicks pick we waited 6 years for ending up being a #25 pick and we get a big guy that might be the next Kosta or David Harrison??
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