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Spurs Doing What Jazz Should be Doing

Saint Cy of JFC said:
Ahh yes, the famous "hey just sit out and waste a year of your career" move.

Yes, some guys may buy into that when they have extreme investment in the franchise (and are actually hurt, have a legit reason to rest), but that is not Dejounte Murray. Picks are picks. They are loading up to tank and use assets to make trades once they get their star next year. What you are suggesting is a fantasy land scenario, not reality.

But yeah, just continue to argue about what one of the smartest franchises in sports history is doing. They going to win more rings with this move.
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We were considered one of the smartest franchises in sports when we had two Hall of Famers. San Antonio hasn't looked too bright since they lost ole Tim Duncan and the crew around him. They killed it with that Kawhi trade lol...

Not every team has the balls to tank, but the Spurs would be better served tanking with Murray than getting a bunch of picks outside the lottery.
 
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LoPo said:
We were considered one of the smartest franchises in sports when we had two Hall of Famers. San Antonio hasn't looked too bright since they lost ole Tim Duncan and the crew around him. They killed it with that Kawhi trade lol...

Not every team has the balls to tank, but the Spurs would be better served tanking with Murray than getting a bunch of picks outside the lottery.

It's okay if somebody disagrees with you Cy.
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Lmao why end your post with that clown sentence?

Are you not also on here arguing with someone who disagrees with you? Is that not what you do on here 90% of the time. Pot calling the kettle black type beat
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Lmao why end your post with that clown sentence?

Are you not also on here arguing with someone who disagrees with you? Is that not what you do on here 90% of the time. Pot calling the kettle black type beat
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I was messing. We're good man. I was just messing.

For me, I would rather have a player than picks unless those picks have a chance to be top 5ish.

Charlotte's pick is lottery protected for 5 years then turns into a 2nd.
Atlanta's picks will likely be outside the lottery too.

I just don't think it's a great trade for San Antonio since all the picks could bust big.
 
LoPo said:
I was messing. We're good man. I was just messing.

For me, I would rather have a player than picks unless those picks have a chance to be top 5ish.

Charlotte's pick is lottery protected for 5 years then turns into a 2nd.
Atlanta's picks will likely be outside the lottery too.

I just don't think it's a great trade for San Antonio since all the picks could bust big.
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Messing or trying to bait me into an infraction?

I've caught on.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Messing or trying to bait me into an infraction?

I've caught on.
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I swear man. I wasn't.

But do you get what I'm saying about the picks? I just don't love those picks from Atlanta. I'd take them no doubt, but they aren't high profile picks.
 
I like getting the picks because it's unlikely you'll ever get more out of him than you can today. He's 25 already and probably not going to be hugely positive value on his next deal unless you really believe he's a perennial all-star.

Feels exactly like selling high on Jrue (which worked out well for the bucks tbf, I also like this for atl as well as sas).
 
mhindy said:
I like getting the picks because it's unlikely you'll ever get more out of him than you can today. He's 25 already and probably not going to be hugely positive value on his next deal unless you really believe he's a perennial all-star.

Feels exactly like selling high on Jrue (which worked out well for the bucks tbf, I also like this for atl as well as sas).
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Bucks were in a great position to buy high on a guy like Jrue since they were one piece away.

This is going to be a terrible trade for the Hawks IMO. They are more than one piece away.

But maybe if they can swing Dejounte by just trading Gallo and picks, maybe they are willing to give up Hunter to get Gobert. If they do that, I would see it as being more worth the risk. If it's just Murray added to their current core, it's going to disappoint.
 
If the Jazz want to have any chance of young stud All Stars wanting to stay in Utah through their 2nd contract, the Jazz really need to bring those players in together, like OKC did with KD, Russ and Harden. Then use the momentum of increasing the win totals and moving up the standings to make it harder for those guys to leave. OKC could have kept Harden if they were willing to pay him and increase his role. They let him walk after the team just went to the Finals.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
If the Jazz want to have any chance of young stud All Stars wanting to stay in Utah through their 2nd contract, the Jazz really need to bring those players in together, like OKC did with KD, Russ and Harden. Then use the momentum of increasing the win totals and moving up the standings to make it harder for those guys to leave.
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No NBA franchise should want to hold onto anyone past their 2nd contract unless they are truly competing.

NBA fans dont want to hear this, but small market teams are basically farm teams who are playing the lottery hoping they get the right combination to pop off at the right time for everything to work. Maybe you get a generational star you can continuously build around if you are lucky enough to have no blown your entire asset base and have enough pieces you can move around to make things work long-term, or you do an exceptional job of developing under the radar prospects to replace your role players/other starters who become too expensive due to prolonged winning.

Then the big markets will take the big swings to bring top talent together.

Luckily the players are so expensive by that time it often blows up in the big market team's face so it's not too out of balance.
 
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