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Steve Jobs dead at 56

Jobs was a visionary and American iCon. Those claiming to hate his company's products probably possess a knockoff of one his company's products.
 
candrew said:
I think most people don't realize the shear genius that it takes to invent something and then convince people they need to own it.

100 years from now they'll be talking about Jobs like they talk about Edison now.
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Does Gates fit in that boat too? They kind of went hand in hand and arguably Gates had a far stronger influence on modern technology. How about Bezos? Or Dan Shechtman? Jobs did some remarkable things but let's keep it in perspective.
 
YB85 said:
Jobs was a visionary and American iCon. Those claiming to hate his company's products probably possess a knockoff of one his company's products.
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I have a long and painful history with Apple products, from the Apple II all the way to the Macbook and iPhones and iPads. I have found them no better quality-wise than any of their competitors, with the caveat that you get what you pay for, so if you buy cheap discount computers you are going to get cheap discount performance and service. But with Apple you pay premium prices and get ok products with ****TY service.

Our Apple II died after 6 months. It could not be revived and we moved on to IBM. My wife's Macbook could not run basic software that she needed without crashing, then the motherboard died (RAM interface went bad), we switched to HP and that laptop has lasted years with zero issues. My wife's iPhone 4 has been returned to Apple 3 times now because of the faulty headphone sensor that causes the phone to route all sound to the headphones whether there are headphones in the jack or not (a known issue with the iPhone 4). They still haven't gotten it right and they won't replace the phone either, so we either buy a new one or live with it. They also tried to charge us for the 3rd repair job. My son's iPad 2 locked up when streaming content from the internet. It has been returned more than once to repair since a reset and update of firmware did not fix it. It still locks up occasionally and no one knows why (another known issue we are told, but less common than the iPhone problem). Again Apple's wonderful return policies are such that they won't replace it. They are anything but perfect products the way the Apple zealots would have you believe. No doubt they have done a lot to push the envelope and cause others to advance their tech as well to keep up, but as a product set they are pretty much average quality and as a company they pretty much suck.

Don't even get me started on the 2 times iTunes has wiped out my wife's music catalog that she bought from other internet sources (mostly amazon) that just disappeared the first time iTunes raped her computer pulling in and ****ing with all the media.


Sorry, didn't mean to get off-topic when this should be about Jobs and his contributions. Just that Apple is not as impressive to me as it might be to others, and the loss of money and time and hair due to frustration is enough to make it a trigger-point for me.
 
Get ready for the iPhone 5 ladies and gentlemen! Just kidding. It's just another 4 with an s on the end.
 
https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headli...phone-to-announce-steve-jobs-funeral-protest/

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It's sad in that 56 is too young to die, but he made his mark on the technological landscape. He established his legacy.

Now maybe Apple will quit trying to sue anyone and everyone who tries to manufacture an accessory for their products.
 
Bronco70 said:
It's sad in that 56 is too young to die, but he made his mark on the technological landscape. He established his legacy.

Now maybe Apple will quit trying to sue anyone and everyone who tries to manufacture an accessory for their products.
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I just want them to stop suing everyone who makes a product that is a threat. Man up and make a better product, don't take the cowards way out and cry that someone has something better than you.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I just want them to stop suing everyone who makes a product that is a threat. Man up and make a better product, don't take the cowards way out and cry that someone has something better than you.
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Quit blabbering and start talking about what products are so much better.

Who has a better laptop?

Who has a better tablet?

Who has a better phone?

I've had two iPhones. The first one was dropped in a swimming pool and it still works perfectly. My 3 year old plays with it to this day. I would have gone through about 5 phones in the time I have had my two iPhones.

I also just bought an iPad today. I shopped around an no tablet came close.
 
Beantown said:
I also just bought an iPad today. I shopped around an no tablet came close.
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You're just jealous you didn't buy one of these babies:

https://www.engadget.com/2011/10/05/indias-35-tablet-is-here-for-real-called-aakash-costs-60/

The problem with Apple is they have one useful tool, the desktop computer. Everything else is overpriced garbage. And even with their desktops, a tornado could crash through a computer parts warehouse and put together a more powerful machine for ~ $300.
 
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