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Stretch 4's who also play defense

mdalby said:
Bolomboy...

Do we really think he is going to get good minutes this coming season? I think Favors is gone and we are probably going to draft a 4 with our 24 pick. I don't think Lyles is going to be ready for minutes yet. Who else are we going to play? Iso Joe can't play all the minutes.
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If Lyles isn't ready for minutes this year he is gonna be out of the league. At some point the Jazz have to start playing their young guys in semi-key roles. Bolomboy might have to play backup 4 or 5 this year, and Lyles or a draft pick might have to start. The alternative would be somehow getting a good FA like Love to play PF and then you need Exum to play bigger minutes.
 
Almost mythical creatures. At least if you're talking about shooters that can protect the rim.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Almost mythical creatures. At least if you're talking about shooters that can protect the rim.
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Yeah, that is why teams are starting to rethink the concept of the "Stretch 4" in favor of just playing guys who would normally be considered 3's at the 4 position. Might as well play a guy with quick feet and ball handling ability since the guys who are considered stretch 4's in the modern NBA usually dont defend or rebound all that well (Lyles, Mirotic, Anderson, Frye, Tolliver, etc).
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yeah, that is why teams are starting to rethink the concept of the "Stretch 4" in favor of just playing guys who would normally be considered 3's at the 4 position. Might as well play a guy with quick feet and ball handling ability since the guys who are considered stretch 4's in the modern NBA usually dont defend or rebound all that well (Lyles, Mirotic, Anderson, Frye, Tolliver, etc).
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More reason why I think a guy like Love would be more valuable despite his defensive deficiencies. You have to put a real 4 on him to defend and box him out.
 
infection said:
More reason why I think a guy like Love would be more valuable despite his defensive deficiencies. You have to put a real 4 on him to defend and box him out.
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No you don't

Love rebounds well but he still doesn't play big

Favors had the potential to be that kind of 4 but... back, knee, plantar, hasn't grown as a player for the last year or two
 
♪alt13 said:
No you don't

Love rebounds well but he still doesn't play big

Favors had the potential to be that kind of 4 but... back, knee, plantar, hasn't grown as a player for the last year or two
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I'm saying you put a 3 on him and concede every rebound.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yeah, that is why teams are starting to rethink the concept of the "Stretch 4" in favor of just playing guys who would normally be considered 3's at the 4 position. Might as well play a guy with quick feet and ball handling ability since the guys who are considered stretch 4's in the modern NBA usually dont defend or rebound all that well (Lyles, Mirotic, Anderson, Frye, Tolliver, etc).
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Huh? Boris, JJ, Melo, RJ, Bron... kid, league been playin point forward forever now.
 
♪alt13 said:
No you don't

Love rebounds well but he still doesn't play big

Favors had the potential to be that kind of 4 but... back, knee, plantar, hasn't grown as a player for the last year or two
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Love played big in Minnesota
 
So funny that everyone on here who wants KP (Porzingis) doesn't see him as a stretch 4.

If he came here that's what he would be.
 
Btw...

Jackson should trade Porzingis for a top pick.
They should then trade their two top ten picks for Celtics picks in 2018 (Nets) and Kings (2019). Wait for real superstar talent that doesn't exist in this draft. Celtics could do it cause then they could package a deal for Davis.


Clearly I prob don't know what I am talking about. But I like Porzingis - and I like him enough to know he ain't a championship centerpiece. Also, crap arrogant attitude... Get that thing outta here.
 
I'm really starting to think Bolomboy might be the answer. I'm crossing all my fingers and toes he makes a leap this year like Gobert did last. Kid has the potential to be something.
 
**** it. Bolomboy starts at the 4. Kid hit 45% from 3 in d league on 2 attempts per game and grabbed 13.2 rebounds. There's no reason with a great summer he can't improve and show much of that in the NBA. Measurements are basically same as Draymond.
 
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