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KqWIN said:
The tweet and commentary make it seem like he was doing the wrong thing….but I’m pretty he sure he actually did the right thing.

It was actually IND’s ball on the left side of the court, but they let DAL inbound anyways. That’s why they were playing the wrong direction. The DAL dude noticed and went the right direction, but I think the refs figured out they messed up and then blew the whistle. At the end of the clip you can see the DAL guys going back to play defense on the left side of the court.
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Wow. That is awesome lol.
 
fishonjazz said:
Yep. Nice thing about Taylor is that I feel like he would have just done what he does. Scored a good amount of points efficiently and played good defense. Its so weird that some people see that as a bad thing.
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Similar to what happened to Cason Wallace leading up to the draft. You get so caught up in looking for the spectacular upside of prospects, players with solid skills get ‘boring’ and their skills overlooked. It becomes about the things they can’t do instead of what they can do. With Hendricks we’re suddenly talking more about not being able to create offense instead of looking forward to his 3&D.
 
I've watched way more summer league this year than I ever have before. I really got in to the draft and so I was invested in these prospects and wanted to see how they looked. I've watched 20+ hours of games live and a lot of highlights and replays which is about 20X more summer league than I normally watch.

Here are a few thoughts on the summer league in general that I think are important when contextualizing someone's performance:

- The guys play really hard in the summer league. Individual defense is better than a typical NBA game whereas team offenses are way less advanced.
- The majority of the guys playing in the summer league are desperate for a chance to stand out and so there is a lot of selfish play going on. If you pass the ball you likely will not see it again in a possession.
- For the two reasons above, ISO scorers who are tough shot takers will have more opportunities to shine than other types of players.
- 2nd and 3rd year guys typically dominate the summer league, no matter the talent disparity. Playing in the NBA accelerates development. I also think the pre draft, draft, and post draft process is very exhausting for rookies.
- The level of play goes down as summer league moves on. They play or practice every day and they don't have legs by the end of the week. The most talented players play the least amount of games and are done by the end of the week.
- There are huge variation in the level of competition between teams and also within teams game to game. For example Indiana had an incredible team to start the tournament with almost a full rotation of guys that will get rotation minutes this coming season in the NBA. One game they would all play and the next game 7 of the top guys would sit. If you played for Indiana, your role on the team would change every game. If you played against Indiana, one game might be really tough and the other really easy.

I'm working on a post to share a summary of thoughts on the players I've watched. I just thought it was important to note how much context there is when evaluating players in the summer league.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I've watched way more summer league this year than I ever have before. I really got in to the draft and so I was invested in these prospects and wanted to see how they looked. I've watched 20+ hours of games live and a lot of highlights and replays which is about 20X more summer league than I normally watch.

Here are a few thoughts on the summer league in general that I think are important when contextualizing someone's performance:

- The guys play really hard in the summer league. Individual defense is better than a typical NBA game whereas team offenses are way less advanced.
- The majority of the guys playing in the summer league are desperate for a chance to stand out and so there is a lot of selfish play going on. If you pass the ball you likely will not see it again in a possession.
- For the two reasons above, ISO scorers who are tough shot takers will have more opportunities to shine than other types of players.
- 2nd and 3rd year guys typically dominate the summer league, no matter the talent disparity. Playing in the NBA accelerates development. I also think the pre draft, draft, and post draft process is very exhausting for rookies.
- The level of play goes down as summer league moves on. They play or practice every day and they don't have legs by the end of the week. The most talented players play the least amount of games and are done by the end of the week.
- There are huge variation in the level of competition between teams and also within teams game to game. For example Indiana had an incredible team to start the tournament with almost a full rotation of guys that will get rotation minutes this coming season in the NBA. One game they would all play and the next game 7 of the top guys would sit. If you played for Indiana, your role on the team would change every game. If you played against Indiana, one game might be really tough and the other really easy.

I'm working on a post to share a summary of thoughts on the players I've watched. I just thought it was important to note how much context there is when evaluating players in the summer league.
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A bazillion years ago I was at a conference in Salt Lake City the same time the Salt Lake Summer League was being played. Some of the teams were staying in the hotel I was at. One day I saw Cory Violette sitting in the lobby looking like someone had shot his dog. I asked one of my co workers if he had any idea why he looked so glum. My co worker said "Oh he got two DNPs/CD in a row after scoring 19 points and grabbing 11 rebounds in an earlier game." He was an undrafted free agent for the Hawks and their top draft pick was playing the same position. He was making the Hawks scouts look bad so no playing time for you.
 
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Summer League Notebook: Part 3 - Western Conference

Keith Smith went to the NBA Summer League! In Part 3, he shares his notes about the Western Conference teams.
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Some interesting tidbits from Keith Smith from SL... Jazz related:

UTAH JAZZ​

  • “Adding John Collins was a no-brainer. He’s an outstanding talent. We feel like he got lost in the shuffle some in Atlanta. With us, we’re going to make sure he’s regularly involved and has a consistent role. We want to play big lineups, because it’s an advantage we have over most other teams. John is going to be an integral part of that strategy.”
  • “We knew going into the summer that we wanted to keep Jordan Clarkson around. At one point, we thought it would be via a standard extension. But once the board kind of fell into place, it was clear we could do the renegotiation and that would benefit both Jordan and us. He’s an organizational favorite and we’re thrilled we kept him in Utah.”
  • “Whenever you have three first-round picks, it’s going to be hard to feel like you nailed all of them, but we really did. Taylor (Hendricks) is going to be a terrific two-way player. It’s rare to find someone as skilled as he is, but that also likes to defend too. Keyonte (George) is already showing his leadership and toughness. He’s going to prove a lot of people wrong. And Brice (Sensabaugh) is going to be really good too. You add them to last year’s rookies, Walker (Kessler), Ochai (Agbaji) and Johnny (Juzang) and that’s six guys in two years. That’s how you fill out your roster while keeping a ton of cap flexibility for the future.”
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Still love me some Seabron. Had him either in the top 20 or just outside of it in last year's draft.

He had a good G-League season on a 2-way and he's having a solid SL. Still can't shoot so not sure if he ever gets actual NBA minutes this season.
 
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