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Tank move: Andrew Bynum

The Thriller said:
Trading for Bynum doesn't mean we have to have him around. We could cut him, right? Especially if he already is planning retirement.

I don't know the ins and outs of his contract. But I think any move that gets us a franchise player from this draft is worth considering. I don't think some people on this board recognize the importance of this draft. A below top 3 pick combined with the loss of Hayward guarantees us another horrible season for next year. Is there anyone up to Randle, Parker, or Wiggins level in the 2015 draft?

If we really are afraid of developing a losing culture then the best way to guarantee a losing culture is to screw up this tank and merely gain another role player in the draft and lose Hayward over the summer.
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I am really starting to think the value of this draft is really overhyped. Like astronomically overhyped. How often do all of the top picks translate to the next level? How many busts are there in the top 3 picks. I'll bet at least one of those guys disappoints. Getting a top 3 pick does not guarantee we will win in the future.
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And Hayward only leaves if the Jazz let him.
 
Most likely they cut Bynam to avoid having to guarantee most of his deal. No reason to give up assets when he'll be available soon regardless.
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One Brow- Ellis269 has your answer. If logic says
No reason to give up assets
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Then conversely getting assets, instead of just letting him go and getting nothing is a better idea. Who may i ask would offer more than this offer (Jazzfanz offer)
and the answer comes back nobody. So why would the Jazz give up anything to get a guy who has disappointed everyone he has played for and now seems to not even want to be a player? This whole idea is motivated by a desire to "tank" and we are not tanking hard enough (29 out of 30 teams at present) that we should trade everybody and anybody to give us a shot at #1 pick. If the cupboard is totally bare when the new messiah arrives seems not to bother the tankers.
 
Elton Brand, Kenyon Martin, Kwame Brown, Yao Ming, LeBron James, Dwight Howard, Andrew Bogut, Andrea Bargnani, Greg Oden, Derrick Rose, Blake Griffin, John Wall, Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis, Anthony Bennett.

The last 15 #1 picks in the NBA draft. How many of these players have driven their teams to an NBA championship. That's right. You can point to one name. If you can't see the folly in tanking to get that pick then there is nothing more to say.
 
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Grandpa Jazz said:
Elton Brown, Kenyon Martin, Kwame Brown, Yao Ming, LeBron James, Dwight Howard, Andrew Bogut, Andrea Bargnani, Greg Oden, Derrick Rose, Blake Griffin, John Wall, Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis, Anthony Bennett.

The last 15 #1 picks in the NBA draft. How many of these players have driven their teams to an NBA championship. That's right. You can point to one name. If you can't see the folly in tanking to get that pick then there is nothing more to say.
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The only thing #1 gets you is the chance to chose anyone that you want. There's no such thing as a historical precedent in this regard.
 
The only thing #1 gets you is the chance to chose anyone that you want. There's no such thing as a historical precedent in this regard.
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"He who disregards history is doomed to repeat it". One of the great axioms of history and one i believe in. You are a true believer infection and sometimes that does work. Otherwise known as dumb luck.
 
Grandpa Jazz said:
"He who disregards history is doomed to repeat it". One of the great axioms of history and one i believe in. You are a true believer infection and sometimes that does work. Otherwise known as dumb luck.
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What you're arguing is that there must be some type of negative mystical magic associated with the #1 selection. As I've stated in another thread, looking at who's been selected at #1 is not as relevant as looking at who's been selected at #1 and below. As you follow that same principle through all the positions, you find that significant historical talent drops of with each progressing number.

Just because Miami has never beat Denver in Denver on December 30 when it's a Monday in a year that a mullato is president does not really tell anything about tonight's game. What does, however, is current context.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
It should be obvious, but they do it for the cap space, and to be rid of their baggage Bynum.
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Bynum is already suspended, and the cap space gain seems minimal. Meanwhile, they are giving up rights in the supposedly best lottery, ever (to hear the hype, any way).
 
Grandpa Jazz said:
"He who disregards history is doomed to repeat it". One of the great axioms of history and one i believe in. You are a true believer infection and sometimes that does work. Otherwise known as dumb luck.
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The #1 pick is bad. Solid logic.
 
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