Taylor Hendricks Hype Thread

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah, Pat started all 71 games he played in as a young 19 year old rookie and that team was actually trying to win. They traded for Vuc half way through to do so. Even if you don't think he was good, it's clear that Bulls believed in him which is why he would be untouchable. He got more minutes than Lauri lol. Getting complete opposite signs from TH....whose playing time is being seen as waving the white flag on this season.

I actually think Pat Williams is a decent player comp though.....Hendricks will need a lot of development to get onto Pat's level, however.

Wasn't trying to throw a comp per se... just saying low production on wings of Taylor's type is not going to plummet his trade value to half of a bad first like Ochai.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The book on Taylor was he's a raw toolsy prospect. If he shows he has a ways to go it hurts his value. It won't kill it though. I also think he played his worst game last night. The other 6-7 game stint he had some ups and downs, but was mostly fine.

 

[KqWIN]

Wasn't trying to throw a comp per se... just saying low production on wings of Taylor's type is not going to plummet his trade value to half of a bad first like Ochai.

I just don't think Pat is very comparable in that sense. Pat was very promising early on and that's why he retained so much value. Is Ochai really that much of a different type than TH anyways? Unless you're talking about age wise. They are both, in theory, role player prospects who play a super valuable role.

Anyways, some comparable wings who are similarish to TH that come to mind are Ousmane Dieng and Ziaire Williams. I don't think it really matters what type of player you are. The only way for that value to not plummet is to play well.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I just don't think Pat is very comparable in that sense. Pat was very promising early on and that's why he retained so much value. Is Ochai really that much of a different type than TH anyways? Unless you're talking about age wise. They are both, in theory, role player prospects who play a super valuable role.

Anyways, some comparable wings who are similarish to TH that come to mind are Ousmane Dieng and Ziaire Williams. I don't think it really matters what type of player you are. The only way for that value to not plummet is to play well.

I think Ziare is a good comp but after his rookie year they were still quite high on him. He was given a very easy role (like we should do with Taylor) and was okayish in it. I don't think his value tanked until later. Dieng... shrug. He's not nearly as athletic as Taylor.

And yes age is a huge factor in the difference between him and Ochai. As well as just physical tools.

 

[default]

Hopefully he can become more like Pascal Siakam and less of a Jeremy Evans.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Long story short... if we were so short sighted that we looked to move Taylor this offseason we'd have many suitors willing to make that bet.

 

[KqWIN]

Long story short... if we were so short sighted that we looked to move Taylor this offseason we'd have many suitors willing to make that bet.

I think that's the same point @Saint Cy of JFC is making. I mean, it should be obvious that his value will continue to go down if he doesn't show growth and it will go up if he does.

This was the last year DA can get way with quitting on the team IMO. We should expect the Jazz to try to significantly upgrade their talent level and ability to win, if not.....man what are we even doing. If the Jazz do not believe in TH, it would be better to trade him sooner rather than later.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think that's the same point @Saint Cy of JFC is making. I mean, it should be obvious that his value will continue to go down if he doesn't show growth and it will go up if he does.

This was the last year DA can get way with quitting on the team IMO. We should expect the Jazz to try to significantly upgrade their talent level and ability to win, if not.....man what are we even doing. If the Jazz do not believe in TH, it would be better to trade him sooner rather than later.

If Lauri re-signs long term they can definitely do another round of sell-offs featuring Sexton/Clarkson/Dunn (assuming he gets re-signed to a team friendly deal).

 

[KqWIN]

If Lauri re-signs long term they can definitely do another round of sell-offs featuring Sexton/Clarkson/Dunn (assuming he gets re-signed to a team friendly deal).

I mean they can....but are they really going to get away with quitting on Lauri/team 3 years in a row? Lauri seems like a good solider who won't cause waves (he has though in the past). But I don't think you can "big picture" the fan base so many times in a row.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think that's the same point @Saint Cy of JFC is making. I mean, it should be obvious that his value will continue to go down if he doesn't show growth and it will go up if he does.

This was the last year DA can get way with quitting on the team IMO. We should expect the Jazz to try to significantly upgrade their talent level and ability to win, if not.....man what are we even doing. If the Jazz do not believe in TH, it would be better to trade him sooner rather than later.

I don't know... trade value isn't an exact science. I just think at this current point, playing him will either increase or have a very small decrease in his value... and the hurdle to increase his value won't be super high. Like shoot corner threes at the 44% he has thus far. make that more than 50% of his shot diet. Do some interesting things on defense.

This summer is a big pivot point. Hit a homerun in the draft, have a player level way up, trade for a major contributor... if not quit playing and just go to the process.

 

[Peter Effin' Parker]

Love this perspective from Tony Jones that I hadn't considered before. From Tony's great article on the Athletic today:

But this is where he is raw. Most important this offseason is he needs to hit the weight room every day. He must become stronger. He also needs to become a lot more confident on offense. You can argue that will come with time, experience and a belief that he can be good at the NBA level. The biggest difference between Hendricks and Utah’s rookie point guard Keyonte George lies here.

George spent most of his upbringing as one of the best players in his age group. He played for Team USA. He was a McDonald’s All-American. George knew from an early age that he would be playing in the NBA. He came into the NBA confident that he belonged. George being drafted by the Jazz at No. 16 lower from where he was ranked as a player for years.

Hendricks never experienced that. He wasn’t a consistent top-100 kid in high school. He was an unknown heading into UCF. In that aspect, he’s had much more of a learning curve than George.

If anybody is on the fence about subscribing to see Tony's work, just pay for it. It's great.

 

[sip]

Yeah, Pat started all 71 games he played in as a young 19 year old rookie and that team was actually trying to win. They traded for Vuc half way through to do so. Even if you don't think he was good, it's clear that Bulls believed in him which is why he would be untouchable. He got more minutes than Lauri lol. Getting complete opposite signs from TH....whose playing time is being seen as waving the white flag on this season.

I actually think Pat Williams is a decent player comp though.....Hendricks will need a lot of development to get onto Pat's level, however.

Yeah I think that is a good and reasonable comp for Hendricks.