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Team USA fails again, but is anyone that surprised?

The Jazz Wonderbra

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Team USA ousted by Germany probably belongs in the NBA forum but Walker Kessler was on the team and its big enough news.

The team had nice players but where are the difference makers? Edwards and who else? KD, Lebron, etc are old. But the best we have to throw at the world is Reaves and Russell? Kind of pathetic when you are paid $30+ million per year and you can't show up for USA basketball.

Lame.
 
The potential to make $30 million a year is precisely why bigger stars don't show up. You can't risk injury for something that is volunteer.
 
Yes, very surprised. You can say we didn't start the best, but they are still much more talented than everyone else.
 
I'm surprised. The construction of the team is okayish but they should have integrated Kessler or brought another big. JJJ has generally played alongside another big and is super foul prone. Experimenting with Banchero as a 5 is cute but they needed a bigger inside presence. Brunson, Tyrese, Reaves is a few too many defensive targets. Team just didn't have much identity.

Generally the talent would just overwhelm other teams but not this time.
 
Not surprised. At some point you've got to learn that it's not just about talent. USA still has an extreme talent advantage over the others, but the players don't care and the coaches hardly seem to care either. I'm completely unsurprised that USA gave up a million points once again and Kerr stuck to his cute lineups after getting blasted over and over. OTOH, players on the other teams have been dreaming about these games their whole life and prepared as such. When the game is even remotely close, the other teaming is smelling blood in perhaps their most important game they've ever played while team USA is probably reconsidering their decision to join in the first place.

I think the comments in this thread sum up team USA's chances. It's all on the back of overwhelming the opposition with talent, but the effect of talent is vastly overrated compared to the effect of actually caring about winning the game. USA didn't exactly bring overwhelming talent in the first place. I would still favor a roster like this in any individual game and favor them in a big way. But when it comes to winning 3+ games in a row, the odds are not so heavily in their favor to expect it to be a sure thing that they win gold.
 
The commercial value of the NBA, and the length of that season, will always make international play a secondary concern.

Why would it ever become a primary concern? What, exactly, should it mean to US players to win during the summer?
 
The commercial value of the NBA, and the length of that season, will always make international play a secondary concern.

Why would it ever become a primary concern? What, exactly, should it mean to US players to win during the summer?

Beyond the commercial value, international play means nothing to American players when it comes to their legacy. It's already screwed up because we're on this weird scale now. The focus of the NBA for the longest time has been LeBron, but he's really competing against Jordan, which means the only thing that matters to him is winning the title. And as a result of that, everyone else is under this "championship or bust" mentality where nothing matters except winning the title. NBA players do not even have it in them to compete on a night to night basis in the NBA, competing in the summer is just not of interest to them.

Maybe once LeBron retires, the next LeBron will care about international competition and that will change it.
 
When guys like Josh Hart are starting for Team USA we are very vulnerable. This isn’t a B team or even a C team really.
Ya I called it when I saw the roster prior to the tournament starting. I sure many others did as well.
 
Using no one 30 or over the best possible team would have been:

Fox
Booker
Tatum
Brown
Bam

With a bench of Edwards/Mitchell/Ingram/Jackson/Haliburton

Maybe sub out Mitchell/Ingram for guys who are proven role players like Bridges/Gordon
 
I'm surprised. The construction of the team is okayish but they should have integrated Kessler or brought another big. JJJ has generally played alongside another big and is super foul prone. Experimenting with Banchero as a 5 is cute but they needed a bigger inside presence. Brunson, Tyrese, Reaves is a few too many defensive targets. Team just didn't have much identity.

Generally the talent would just overwhelm other teams but not this time.
It's really been a long time since we fielded a team in these things that could comfortably overwhelm with talent unfortunately. But frankly I'm not a fan of the summer stuff. Give them some time to rest and work on their game, imo.
 
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