Terrorism in Charleston, SC

[Siro]

I stated what my point was. If you want to make it into something else, go ahead. I don't care.

I also don't care that you wouldn't sell the confederate flag. If you're also saying that you wouldn't sell anything that is considered racist by some, you'd better have a lot of ink, the list is going to be long.

Also, are you really saying that high profile politicians are just "SOMEONE". Can't you simply take what I said at face value, and leave it there?

I'm interested in having rational debates that can reach meaningful conclusions. If you simply want to see your words printed on a page, then yes, I'm more than happy to take what you said at face value and leave it there. After all, you'll never see me debating DutchJazzer!

 

[♪alt13]

How is the American flag just as racist? The Confederate flag represented the losing side of a war AGAINST the united states over (if in part) the issue of slavery. It's the flag of the pro-slavers side that lost the war.

And she has the right to say that selling the flag is wrong. She is an American citizen with the full rights it entails. The fact her voice has power is irrelevant.

As a politician she will say what best suits her campaign. Find a quote showing her objection to the Confederate flag when she was the first lady of Arkansas and I will be less cynical.

Srs, when are people going to start seeing politicians for what they are, politicians.

Edit: I know you weren't cheer leading for Hilary, but I wouldn't paint her as just a private citizen with influence.

 

[Siro]

As a politician she will say what best suits her campaign. Find a quote showing her objection to the Confederate flag when she was the first lady of Arkansas and I will be less cynical.

Srs, when are people going to start seeing politicians for what they are, politicians.

Edit: I know you weren't cheer leading for Hilary, but I wouldn't paint her as just a private citizen with influence.

That's obviously the case. If calling for the preservation of the flag was in her interest, she would drape herself head-to-toe in the Stars and Bars. But the sincerity of her position is irrelevant. The argument is about the meaning, context, and history of the flag, and what that says about the morality of flying, selling, or supporting it.

 

[Maktub]

I'm interested in having rational debates that can reach meaningful conclusions. If you simply want to see your words printed on a page, then yes, I'm more than happy to take what you said at face value and leave it there. After all, you'll never see me debating DutchJazzer!

Is this a meaningful conclusion?

https://www.theverge.com/2015/6/23/8836571/dukes-of-hazzard-car-toys-confederate-flag

Are we taking things a little too far? Don't know about anybody else, but I watched Dukes of Hazzard while growing up. Bo and Luke didn't seem racist to me. Just some good ol' boys, never meaning no harm. I wonder if I watched today, if I would think differently.

 

[Siro]

Is this a meaningful conclusion?

https://www.theverge.com/2015/6/23/8836571/dukes-of-hazzard-car-toys-confederate-flag

Are we taking things a little too far? Don't know about anybody else, but I watched Dukes of Hazzard while growing up. Bo and Luke didn't seem racist to me. Just some good ol' boys, never meaning no harm. I wonder if I watched today, if I would think differently.

It's a backlash caused by a national tragedy. I'm not that interested in analyzing whether every person's response is justifiable or whether it's an over-reaction. Private citizens are free to do as they wish. Let's stop pretending such triviality is a cause worth fighting for.

 

[LogGrad98]

But that chapter was concluded with the civil war. The side that wanted slavery to continue carried the Confederate flag, and lost. The Union wanted slavery abolished, they carried the American flag, and won. It's really quite simple.

Plus there's the whole white privilege thing.

 

[Gameface]

Plus there's the whole white privilege thing.

yes please