So stupid, Mexico will in turn hit our imports.
Making an enemy, that's what he is doing, of our southern neighbor is incredibly idiotic. Bad for trade and national security.
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So stupid, Mexico will in turn hit our imports.
Making an enemy, that's what he is doing, of our southern neighbor is incredibly idiotic. Bad for trade and national security.
DutchJazzer
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if mexico is so great why are people fleeing the great mexico land to come and live in america!?!?!!
Over the last ten years there's been net negative immigration from Mexico. That's part of what's so stupid about this.
DutchJazzer
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i know i said mexico, but i meant latin america as a whole, because thats whats the wall is for rihht.
sorry i should have said:
if latin ameircan country is so great why are people fleeing the great latin land to come and live in america!?!?!!
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He didn't say Mexico is great. He said Mexico will in turn hit our imports.
Making an enemy, that's what he is doing, of our southern neighbor is incredibly idiotic. Bad for trade and national security.
Trump has articulate critics on the right, constitutionalists like Mark Levin, who are indoctrinated in Adam Smith trade ideals, ie no tariffs, who reason that tariffs are a tax on the citizens of the country imposing the tariffs because it makes those imports more expensive.
I observe that our American Revolution was the result of international corporates (The British Far East Tracing Co) who influenced King George to treat Americans as second class British subjects who were not allowed to compete with the British home-based corporates, and who had to pay tariffs to the crown to boot, creating a huge payoff for successful smugglers. But our founders wanted to kick the BFETC out compoletely so they set it up so the Fed govt could only finance itself with tariffs imposed on those corporate goods coming in, which in turn created American producers and competitors who eventually produced cheaper goods for US citizens.
I am proud that my wife has dual citizenship (Mexico and US) but I can own property in Mexico or do business there. Mexico government elites are the most regressive on the planet. They literally drive people into the US in order to find opportunities. Most Mexicans who come here will, in the course of a decade, become prosperous because they work hard, unless they send all their pay home.
If I was President, I would tax those dollars sent home, but if they signed up for eventual immigration consideration and got their pay taxed like Americans, I would offer them conditional dual citizenship after five years, revocable if they go home and stop paying income taxes.
I'd love to be a Mexican and go to Sonora and start a farm. I mean, if they decided to honor human beings as our Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence indicate, as having inalienable human rights.
That's the problem, The govt, teaching their people Marxism and reconquenst of the American Southwest, does not believe humans have actual rights. That is a huge factor in why I believe we can take Mexicans in to the US and still have our Constitutional Republic. Prosperous, hard-working people will want their rights. These people will reject the progressives who presume they'll end up being their cattle.
I observe that our American Revolution was the result of international corporates (The British Far East Tracing Co) who influenced King George to treat Americans as second class British subjects who were not allowed to compete with the British home-based corporates, and who had to pay tariffs to the crown to boot, creating a huge payoff for successful smugglers. But our founders wanted to kick the BFETC out compoletely so they set it up so the Fed govt could only finance itself with tariffs imposed on those corporate goods coming in, which in turn created American producers and competitors who eventually produced cheaper goods for US citizens.
I am proud that my wife has dual citizenship (Mexico and US) but I can own property in Mexico or do business there. Mexico government elites are the most regressive on the planet. They literally drive people into the US in order to find opportunities. Most Mexicans who come here will, in the course of a decade, become prosperous because they work hard, unless they send all their pay home.
If I was President, I would tax those dollars sent home, but if they signed up for eventual immigration consideration and got their pay taxed like Americans, I would offer them conditional dual citizenship after five years, revocable if they go home and stop paying income taxes.
I'd love to be a Mexican and go to Sonora and start a farm. I mean, if they decided to honor human beings as our Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence indicate, as having inalienable human rights.
That's the problem, The govt, teaching their people Marxism and reconquenst of the American Southwest, does not believe humans have actual rights. That is a huge factor in why I believe we can take Mexicans in to the US and still have our Constitutional Republic. Prosperous, hard-working people will want their rights. These people will reject the progressives who presume they'll end up being their cattle.
If I was trying to take a situation where illegal immigration was essentially flat coming from Mexico and turn it into a situation where people would be willing to risk life and limb to get to the U.S. let me wonder what I would do.
I would charge tariffs on all goods coming from that country to try to destroy employment opportunities.
I would deport a bunch of people who's life exists here and only here for as long as they can remember.
I would charge a tax on money people in this country send to family in that country.
Then I'd build a wall between me and that country and act like I had done everything I could to prevent this new wave of mass illegal immigration of the worst kind of people, you know, rape, drugs, stealing, etc. And that it will require even greater measures to turn back this tide of horror descending upon us.
I would charge tariffs on all goods coming from that country to try to destroy employment opportunities.
I would deport a bunch of people who's life exists here and only here for as long as they can remember.
I would charge a tax on money people in this country send to family in that country.
Then I'd build a wall between me and that country and act like I had done everything I could to prevent this new wave of mass illegal immigration of the worst kind of people, you know, rape, drugs, stealing, etc. And that it will require even greater measures to turn back this tide of horror descending upon us.
Having limits on currency exports or fees for sending dollars abroad has been done before. Sure the fees tend to create smuggling or black market operations, but where there is a huge disparity in the buying power of the money across a border, those fees would not need to amount to a reason not to pay the tax/fee and send the money legally.
Look, all people have to do anywhere, anytime, to survive. . . . is roll outta bed and go do something worthwhile.
If Mexico was an island, and there was no other country on the planet, people there would find a way.
If we impose legal penalties on employers who defy the law and hire illegals, and throw people in jail if they aid and abet folks without a legal status.... you know, give them room and board, or transportation, and jail illegals and deport them, the logic all changes. People will find something else to do that isn't that much trouble. Go get in line at the embassy or consulate and ask for proper papers. Lots of employers here would be able to do well hiring legal foreign workers.
The drug runners and gang bangers might not be willing to do that. Then we could focus on the criminal element, and still let a lot of good people come here for a better life.
Imposing a tax or fee on money exports has been done before. where there is a huge disparity in the purchase power of the money across a border, those charges might amount to an incentive for smugglers/black market operations, but if they are reasonable fees and laws commensurate for evading them, many people would choose the legal way.
We need to disincentivize the pattern that damages our sovereignty as a nation.
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I thought it was alternative news. Or was it fake facts? Fake alternatives? Hmm.
What the hell do you care? You arent american and dont have to buy anything.
DutchJazzer
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well we have something comparable here. so speaking from experience. i loe liberty my liberty is exceeding borders.
aas i poste din one of these threads earlier i am glad trump won. because as a jew it is the best outcome for israel and antisemitism in the world. I DO CARE ABOUT THAT!
but other than that i got opinions! and i think imho if reps introduce "insertname"care i would critize it if it is mandatory and forces people into it!
we have same **** here. i dont wnana be forced to pay for something.
as i said i dont like pepsi, i usually don't tend to criticize it!(except to make an example now) now i am not against it. because people obviously buy it! but when government forces me to buy pepsi i would criticize it!