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The Anti-Sloan/Pro-Deron Theory

candrew said:
We're spoon fed stories where there is always a good guy or bad guy; but in this story you probably just have an old guy that's burned out.
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You're one of my favorite posters, but you're also espousing the theory I find least credible. Call me conflicted.

I'm not saying your points might not be correct, but really, what indication has Jerry Sloan ever given that he's the type of guy to quit his gig halfway through a season? Especially considering that he'd given no indication beforehand that he had any thoughts other than finishing his contract? Things like this rarely happen without a significant proximate cause, and I still don't think a minor and typical fight between Deron and Jerry is reason enough.
 
tatermoog said:
You're one of my favorite posters, but you're also espousing the theory I find least credible. Call me conflicted.

I'm not saying your points might not be correct, but really, what indication has Jerry Sloan ever given that he's the type of guy to quit his gig halfway through a season? Especially considering that he'd given no indication beforehand that he had any thoughts other than finishing his contract? Things like this rarely happen without a significant proximate cause, and I still don't think a minor and typical fight between Deron and Jerry is reason enough.
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I'll leave someone else to dig up the evidence, but I've heard him say innumerable times that the reason he signs these extensions is he doesn't know when he'll be tired of it and just up and want out. That he might leave just like Layden did, even. Details notwithstanding, that's exactly what happened.
 
And I'll echo what many others including myself had said before, this is multi-faceted and I don't know what good is accomplished pointing fingers when **** just happens, sometimes.
 
This thread is entirely too level-headed and in contrast to the other threads where everyone thinks Deron is a douche and threw a major temper tantrum and ran Sloan out of town. What the hell happened Jazzfanz?
 
catratcho said:
This thread is entirely too level-headed and in contrast to the other threads where everyone thinks Deron is a douche and threw a major temper tantrum and ran Sloan out of town. What the hell happened Jazzfanz?
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Don't be confused, I still believe that's what happened. This thread has no bearing on Deron being a Level Five Douche.
 
tatermoog said:
I'm not saying your points might not be correct, but really, what indication has Jerry Sloan ever given that he's the type of guy to quit his gig halfway through a season?
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He's always given that indication. He's always said he'd go out like Layden, just hit a moment when he doesn't want to do it anymore and be done right there.

Really, have you never had a point in your life when you're just finished with something? A job, relationship, whatever. To continue in that type of situation is the worst way to go about it. If he felt like it wasn't what he wanted to be doing anymore, it would be a disservice to play out the rest of the season trying to force the energy or enthusiasm that's necessary for the job.
 
1) No way. If Deron adjusted simply responding to the defense, that does not cause an argument. How dumb and inexperienced do you think Sloan is? Don't answer the dumb part.
2) One fight is not the issue and it is naive for anyone to suppose it is. Deron has changed his tune this year both on Jerry and on the FO. He has been challenging them and getting more outspoken. What may be true is that this is the first time Jerry has had a star player continually challenging him and not backing off, particularly as the sole leader.
 
bluenote said:
Why does it have to be anyone's fault? Jerry was 68 years old. If you look at his old videos, he had tons of energy on the bench. Watching him the past couple of seasons he seemed to slow down a bit and admitted he was tired. The Jazz players weren't responding like they used to and the play was showing that. Given both circumstances, he knew it was time.
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Winner here...

But that is too boring for a forum.
 
Hello,

First time poster. I really debated whether I should post this on here, mostly because I know what the reaction will be. It's not earth-shattering information but I have a source from inside the orginazation that frequently tells me things from time to time. I asked them about the whole situation and while they don't know exactly what occurred, they did say that Deron and Jerry had been at it all season long.

The media is reporting the 3 blowups as the worst of it, but the two were constantly at it during practice and not only did it make the rest of the team uncomfortable, it's possible that this is the reason why we've had such bad results on the court. They also said that the players they know well are still in shock and upset about Jerry leaving. Only a couple players were told about him actually resigning and most didn't know what was going on until the press conference which explains why they were not there.

So there you go. Nothing we don't really know but thought I would share. Believe what you will.
 
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