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The Best Show on the History of Television

What is the best show on the history of television?

  • The Sopranos

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • The Wire

    Votes: 3 8.6%
  • Mad Men

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Breaking Bad

    Votes: 11 31.4%
  • I Love Lucy

    Votes: 2 5.7%
  • Seinfeld

    Votes: 6 17.1%
  • MASH

    Votes: 3 8.6%
  • The Simpsons

    Votes: 2 5.7%
  • All in the Family

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 6 17.1%

  • Total voters
    35
I don't think I've enjoyed a show more than Heroes. My wife and I watch very little t.v. but we binged that entire thing out in short order.

If we are going on single seasons like someone mention about Dexter 1, the first couple SOA seasons were damn good. It went south fast when they went to Ireland and I could never get back into it after that season.

Also, good call on Law and Order. That series changed television and led to countless knock offs. As far as that goes, I guess I have to point out The Real World (harrumph!).

Good all around post.

I especially agree about SOA when they went to Ireland.

The song that played at the very end of the last episode
when jax was committing suicide
was awesome btw
 
Is True Detective coming back for a 3rd season ?

Don't know. Last I heard was that Pizz' original contract was for three seasons but not necessarily for TD. Just for writing for three seasons for HBO so in theory he could just write a season for some other new programming.
 
Don't know. Last I heard was that Pizz' original contract was for three seasons but not necessarily for TD. Just for writing for three seasons for HBO so in theory he could just write a season for some other new programming.

Damn it, they screwed up the 2nd season so bad there might not be a 3rd season???



I dunno who they could have messed it up that badly...
 
Damn it, they screwed up the 2nd season so bad there might not be a 3rd season???



I dunno who they could have messed it up that badly...

I'm not saying Pizz is some stud because I while I thought season one was brilliant in every way (minus the finale), I do find his writing sort of cliched and a semi-plagiarized amalgam of other pieces of literature, so in that regard, not very original.

That said, I blame season 2 on HBO. They had a legit director for season one. And on season 2, it was a collection of dip****s. I find a director to be the most important person involved in the filmmaking process. He/she can take average or even subpar writing and turn it into something that felt fantastic. They are able to embody exactly what the writer was going for or at times even enhance it, making it better than what was in words. I don't find the opposite to be true very often.

If I'm HBO, I try to persuade CF to come back for season 3 (though he and Pizz had issues I've heard) and if he won't or can't, create a short list of talented directors who fit the bill. Give me 15 minutes and I could probably come up with 5-7 legit names. I'm not saying the directors would do it or even could due to scheduling conflicts. But they would be names that sort of make sense. Well, without knowing what the plot would be exactly.
 
I'm not saying Pizz is some stud because I while I thought season one was brilliant in every way (minus the finale), I do find his writing sort of cliched and a semi-plagiarized amalgam of other pieces of literature, so in that regard, not very original.

That said, I blame season 2 on HBO. They had a legit director for season one. And on season 2, it was a collection of dip****s. I find a director to be the most important person involved in the filmmaking process. He/she can take average or even subpar writing and turn it into something that felt fantastic. They are able to embody exactly what the writer was going for or at times even enhance it, making it better than what was in words. I don't find the opposite to be true very often.

If I'm HBO, I try to persuade CF to come back for season 3 (though he and Pizz had issues I've heard) and if he won't or can't, create a short list of talented directors who fit the bill. Give me 15 minutes and I could probably come up with 5-7 legit names. I'm not saying the directors would do it or even could due to scheduling conflicts. But they would be names that sort of make sense. Well, without knowing what the plot would be exactly.

Yeah Direction was a real issue last year. When I found out CF was not going to be directing I was pretty gutted. Then I found out that one of the directors was going to be Justin Lin (Fast and Furious franchise) I was like WTF is going on? That's the opposite direction of where the series should be heading.


TD could have been (and still can be) one of the best detective series, let's hope they can get their acts together sooner rather than later.
 
That said, I blame season 2 on HBO. They had a legit director for season one. And on season 2, it was a collection of dip****s. I find a director to be the most important person involved in the filmmaking process. He/she can take average or even subpar writing and turn it into something that felt fantastic. They are able to embody exactly what the writer was going for or at times even enhance it, making it better than what was in words. I don't find the opposite to be true very often.

The consensus opinion is that feature films are a director's medium while television is a writer's medium. Obviously there are cases that go against the conventional wisdom (Charlie Kaufman films are Charlie Kaufman films regardless of director; the Knick is definitively a Steven Soderberg project) but television episodes for a single series are usually a patchwork quilt of directors. Unifying looks and themes exist across episodes, Breaking Bad always had that same spare viewing experience, but directors rarely have total control the way they do on a film set.

My point is, I suspect that TD came out of the oven before it was ready more than there was any particular direction deficit.
 
My favorite shows:

1. Seinfeld
2. Arrested development
3. Breaking bad
4. The office us
5. Parks and rec
6. Better call Saul
7. Scrubs



The only other show I can kind of stand watching is house of cards. They have been almost unbearable lately though.
 
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