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mongoose01 said:
What? Americans aren’t even saved from American prisons for drug possession.


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I actually heard something about americans being pardoned for marijuana charges or something.
 
fishonjazz said:
I actually heard something about americans being pardoned for marijuana charges or something.
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I’ve been told by a poster here that nothing was done about that. It was just a headline…

mongoose01 said:
I’m somewhat surprised that there was this much support, but there is still no guarantee it would have made it through the democrat controlled congress. Why not vote to extend the cooling off period?
If you think the democrats are above BS games, you’re crazy.
The student loan forgiveness and dropping federal marijuana charges are just a few examples. One Biden made sure would be tied up in court for a very long time and the other did exactly nothing for anyone. They were good headlines for a day though.


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The Thriller said:
“bUt StAtE’s RiGhTs!”
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What is wrong with state’s rights?

Here in Florida, DeSantis has signed into law a harsher punishment for Meth and Fentanyl dealers.

Fentanyl is the leading cause of death in the 18-45 age group, more than Covid, Cancer or car accidents.

What has the federal government done?
www.whitehouse.gov

Actions Taken by the Biden-Harris Administration to Address Addiction and the Overdose Epidemic | ONDCP | The White House

At a time when overdose deaths, driven primarily by illicitly manufactured synthetic drugs, have reached a record high, the Biden-Harris Administration has significantly expanded access to evidence-based prevention, treatment, harm reduction, and recovery support services, as well as taken...
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“Customs and Border Protection (CBP) significantly increased the amount of fentanyl seizures along the Southwest border, seizing an average of more than 800 pounds of fentanyl each month in fiscal year 2021, over twice as much as fiscal year 2020 and four times the amount seized in 2019.”

The border crisis is not just about illegal immigration, but the deadliest drug is flowing over it. At first carrying it over the border, US citizens were the ones doing it at legal crossings.

But because of Covid legal border crossing lockdowns:
  • During the travel restrictions, fentanyl seizures at ports quadrupled from fiscal year 2019 to 2021. Fentanyl went from a third of combined heroin and fentanyl seizures to over 90 percent.
  • Annual deaths from fentanyl nearly doubled from 2019 to 2021 after the government banned most travel (and asylum).
If the federal government will not improve the border security for drugs and US smugglers, then I’m grateful for states rights and actions like Texas. Texas is using additional resources at the border to help out.
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Texas Leads Fight Against Growing National Fentanyl Crisis

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What has California done to improve their weak fentanyl laws…not much.
www.wklaw.com

California Cracks Down on Fentanyl Investigations with Huge $20 Million Bust

Recently, California law enforcement has been cracking down on fentanyl, a synthetic opioid that is cheaper than other narcotics but highly addictive and dangerous.
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Mostly Misdemeanors.

So yeah “bUt StAtE’s RiGhTs”
 
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The Thriller said:
I’ve been told by a poster here that nothing was done about that. It was just a headline…
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From the article-
The move also is not expected to remove any individuals from prison.

The administration official speaking to reporters on Thursday said that “there are no individuals currently in federal prison solely for simple possession of marijuana.”


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Turnout by Republicans Was Great. It's Just That Many of Them Didn't Vote for Republicans.

After yet another disappointing showing for Republicans in Georgia’s Senate runoff on Tuesday, some conservatives — like Sean Hannity, Newt Gingrich and Kevin McCarthy — have begun to point to a surprising culprit: a failure to take advantage of early voting. The theory seems to be that...
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In state after state, the final turnout data shows that registered Republicans turned out at a higher rate — and in some places a much higher rate — than registered Democrats, including in many of the states where Republicans were dealt some of their most embarrassing losses.

Instead, high-profile Republicans like Herschel Walker in Georgia or Blake Masters in Arizona lost because Republican-leaning voters decided to cast ballots for Democrats, even as they voted for Republican candidates for U.S. House or other down-ballot races in their states.


Well done trump.


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fishonjazz said:
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Turnout by Republicans Was Great. It's Just That Many of Them Didn't Vote for Republicans.

After yet another disappointing showing for Republicans in Georgia’s Senate runoff on Tuesday, some conservatives — like Sean Hannity, Newt Gingrich and Kevin McCarthy — have begun to point to a surprising culprit: a failure to take advantage of early voting. The theory seems to be that...
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In state after state, the final turnout data shows that registered Republicans turned out at a higher rate — and in some places a much higher rate — than registered Democrats, including in many of the states where Republicans were dealt some of their most embarrassing losses.

Instead, high-profile Republicans like Herschel Walker in Georgia or Blake Masters in Arizona lost because Republican-leaning voters decided to cast ballots for Democrats, even as they voted for Republican candidates for U.S. House or other down-ballot races in their states.


Well done trump.


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That is a really good sign of the democracy working as intended. People will only suffer insufferable asses for so long.
 
fishonjazz said:
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Meaning "Drug possession" is a charge they tack on to the individual or in an effort to extend sentences by convicting them for "trafficking" or some other ****. Drug offenses still account for the incarceration of almost 400,000 people, yet nobody can be released with Bidens pardon? Biden had to have known his pardon wasn't going to do anything for those in prison for drug charges nor will it do anything for individuals charged after his pardon as it stated in the article. You can "lol" all you want, but any sane or sympathetic individual can see the prison system needs reform and WAY too many people are in jail/prison on drug charges.
 
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See, we were discussing getting Griner out of prison for possessing a gram of marijauna.
Then mongoose said that we should focus on people in america who are imprisoned for drug possession.

So if we are making this comparison then lets make it apples to apples.

Griner was imprisoned for possessing a gram of marijuana. Are there americans in prisons in america for possessing a gram of marijuana? According to mongoose the answer is no. So his compaint of america having people like griner in american prisons was just a falsehood.
Glad we got that settled. Moving on……


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fishonjazz said:
See, we were discussing getting Griner out of prison for possessing a gram of marijauna.
Then mongoose said that we should focus on people in america who are imprisoned for drug possession.

So if we are making this comparison then lets make it apples to apples.

Griner was imprisoned for possessing a gram of marijuana. Are there americans in prisons in america for possessing a gram of marijuana? According to mongoose the answer is no. So his compaint of america having people like griner in american prisons was just a falsehood.
Glad we got that settled. Moving on……


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According to Reuters - A U.S. official said on Thursday that U.S. basketball star Brittney Griner, who had been jailed in Russia in charges of possessing and smuggling illegal drugs, was now in U.S. custody

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Brittney Griner, U.S. basketball star caught up in Russia crisis

A U.S. official said on Thursday that U.S. basketball star Brittney Griner, who had been jailed in Russia in charges of possessing and smuggling illegal drugs, was now in U.S. custody.
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Mongoose said:
According to Reuters - A U.S. official said on Thursday that U.S. basketball star Brittney Griner, who had been jailed in Russia in charges of possessing and smuggling illegal drugs, was now in U.S. custody

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Brittney Griner, U.S. basketball star caught up in Russia crisis

A U.S. official said on Thursday that U.S. basketball star Brittney Griner, who had been jailed in Russia in charges of possessing and smuggling illegal drugs, was now in U.S. custody.
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Any time you bring a prohibited item through customs without declaring it you have "smuggled."

Other than that I'm not sure what your point is here.
 
Mongoose said:
Meaning "Drug possession" is a charge they tack on to the individual or in an effort to extend sentences by convicting them for "trafficking" or some other ****.
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It's the other way around. Possession above a certain amount can be charged with trafficking, even if you've never sold a gram. Many people are in prison for "trafficking" when it really was just possession.
 
Gameface said:
Any time you bring a prohibited item through customs without declaring it you have "smuggled."

Other than that I'm not sure what your point is here.
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Did you read what I was responding to? He said she was in jail for possession in Russia and he wants to draw comparisons. I was showing that the possession charges even in Russia are drummed up and the possession charge is tacked on to other charges like smuggling.
She was not in prison in Russia for simple drug possession, just like folks in the US are not in prison for simple drug possession charges because the prison system wants to tack charges onto people to extend sentences, increase parole etc.
 
Mongoose said:
Did you read what I was responding to? He said she was in jail for possession in Russia and he wants to draw comparisons. I was showing that the possession charges even in Russia are drummed up and the possession charge is tacked on to other charges like smuggling.
She was not in prison in Russia for simple drug possession, just like folks in the US are not in prison for simple drug possession charges because the prison system wants to tack charges onto people to extend sentences, increase parole etc.
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Sure. I guess I'm not clear on your larger point. Yes, things get tacked on. Her crime was possession and smuggling. Are you trying to claim victory for finding a fairly simple error in what fish said?

I don't know what typical sentences for that crime typically are in Russia. 9 years in a gulag seems outrageously excessive. I know that in places like the U.S., Canada, Australia, a person who had done that exact thing would most likely walk out of the airport having paid a fine, having the illegal substance confiscated and being noted for increased scrutiny when going through customs in the future.

Are you arguing that her sentence was justified? That she would have faced the same consequences here for the exact same thing? That "both sides" suck because we didn't get enough in exchange for our prisoner?

I'm just not getting what idea your clarification is intended to advance, unless you just wanted to clarify for the sake of clarification.
 
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