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Al-O-Meter said:
That you don't know the answers to these very simple questions is why I find it so appalling that you are allowed to teach other people's children. There is history behind the reasons each and every point on your list is the way it is. At least I'll give you credit for admitting your ignorance.
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The fact that you have never taken a class where someone utilizes the Socratic method would be distressing if I actually cared what you think. I decided to look at what you said, and it reminded me of why I have you blocked.
 
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gandalfe said:
The fact that you have never taken a class where someone utilizes the Socratic method would be distressing if I actually cared what you think. I decided to look at what you said, and it reminded me of what I have you blocked.
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Perfect post. He confirms everyday what many of us have been accusing him of being for months. Some introspection would be helpful. But he lacks the self-awareness, honesty, and character to do so. Sadly, he’s just Not worth engaging at all. He cares too much about settling his petty grievances. At this point, he’s become the new Jazzyfresh and Dutch of this board. Ignored by most and only periodically engaged by a few posters who like showing off how ignorant he is.

I also understand that no great overhaul of our constitution is likely to happen anytime soon. But I do think these discussions are worth having. Millions of Americans remain frustrated by a system that is perhaps (too) beholden to its past rather than adjusting to meet the needs of its citizens. Philosophically, is this really the best we can do? Just because we’re the world’s oldest democracy doesn’t mean we’re the most effective or will remain a democracy in our lifetimes.
 
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The Thriller said:
Perfect post. He confirms everyday what many of us have been accusing him of being for months. Some introspection would be helpful. But he lacks the self-awareness, honesty, and character to do so. Sadly, he’s just Not worth engaging at all. At this point, he’s become the new Jazzyfresh and Dutch of this board. Ignored by most and only periodically engaged by a few posters who like showing off how ignorant he is.
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I bet he's googling "Socratic method" right now and will claim he's known what it is all along, much better than I do, obviously.
 
Red said:
If one of our only two major political parties becomes dominated by an authoritarian demagogue and his MAGA cult of personality, then certainly that is a threat to our democracy. It’s about time Biden came right out and labeled the MAGA movement as the very real danger to our democracy that it represents. It’s about time. But MAGA does not have to be the future of the Republican Party, and “dominated, driven, and intimidated by Trump and MAGA Republicans” is not the same thing as saying every self-identifying Republican voter in the United States approves of the MAGA movement.

“There is no question that the Republican Party today is dominated, driven, and intimidated by Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans, and that is a threat to this country.”

I read that as follows: if one of our only two major political parties is being hijacked by a minority anti-democratic cult of personality, then that is a threat to our democracy in general. And it certainly is. The threat is that MAGA is dominating our traditional conservative political party. Even in that above quote from his speech, he speaks of both the Republican Party and MAGA Republicans. Dominated is not the same as 100% of Republican voters embrace MAGA.

But, let me agree with you, up to a point. If the Republican Party cannot, or will not, divest itself of the MAGA cult, then, yes, we have one of our two major political parties standing clearly as a threat to our democracy. And they are right now, since MAGA is not a third party movement. And here’s the thing: the fact that MAGA is dominating Republican rhetoric right now is not Joe Biden’s fault. Sure, they would say it is I guess. And they identify Democrats as the enemy of America anyway. But, really, this is something Republicans did to themselves, over a period of time, maybe going back to Gingrich.

He clearly appealed to more moderate Republicans and independents. But it was about time he spelled right out where the danger to American democracy lies: it lies with the MAGA movement, and it’s leader, Donald Trump. That does put it on Republicans to find some way to divest their party of that irrational-based, worthless cult, and clean their house.

And if you want to think, or say, that Biden declared war on half of America, go ahead. He did not, but since you would prefer to defend a party than defend democracy in America, well, go right ahead and interpret it in your own hyperbolic way.

MAGA infected your party. Do something about it, and stop blaming Biden for something for which you have only yourselfs to blame. All your 2016 candidates called Trump out and lambasted him. Then, they lost their spine. Well, find some backbone, damn it! MAGA is anti-democratic and anti-American. Some people will just defend the indefensible forever. I recognized what Trump represented the day he descended the escalator in Trump Tower in 2015. Instead of dealing with it, Republicans allowed MAGA to infect their party, and infect my country.

Stop blaming Democrats and Biden and do something about this diseased cult!!
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gandalfe said:
The fact that you have never taken a class where someone utilizes the Socratic method would be distressing if I actually cared what you think. I decided to look at what you said, and it reminded me of why I have you blocked.
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If you think that is the Socratic method then it is you who doesn't know what the Socratic method is. The Thriller wasn't being instructional in why those things are as they are. He was using a frame of being arbitrarily decided to tear them down.

As far as peeking past your block, don't. At least with The Thriller, I'm only dismayed by his having exposure to kids due to the intellectual garbage he puts in their heads. You I put in a different category. It is unfortunate your kid got you as a father. It is best for the board if you don't reply to my posts.
 
Al-O-Meter said:
It is unfortunate your kid got you as a father.
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For a long time, I treated you like a person who wanted to reason. Then, recently, you lied about the contents of material that I linked to, as if I hadn't this stuff or wouldn't respond. You seem to be the exact poster The Thriller always accused you of being, and all of my efforts at discussion and reasoning have made no difference.

I do not regret a single second of those efforts. I want to be the person that assume every poster has good intention and wants to understand the world better, who engages assuming good faith and intentions. It's lead to mutually antagonistic, yet productive, conversations with posters like Bucknutz, JazzSpazz, RandyForRubio, colton, and other consrvatives who I respect even while disagreeing with them.

By contrast, you apparently be the person who just said that post above. You only get pity.
 
One Brow said:
For a long time, I treated you like a person who wanted to reason. Then, recently, you lied about the contents of material that I linked to, as if I hadn't this stuff or wouldn't respond. You seem to be the exact poster The Thriller always accused you of being, and all of my efforts at discussion and reasoning have made no difference.

I do not regret a single second of those efforts. I want to be the person that assume every poster has good intention and wants to understand the world better, who engages assuming good faith and intentions. It's lead to mutually antagonistic, yet productive, conversations with posters like Bucknutz, JazzSpazz, RandyForRubio, colton, and other consrvatives who I respect even while disagreeing with them.

By contrast, you apparently be the person who just said that post above. You only get pity.
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I don't know what they said, but I assume it was a personal attack towards me.
 
gandalfe said:
I don't know what they said, but I assume it was a personal attack towards me.
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It was against us both. Unfortunately, it’s what most of this board has come to expect out of him. Cheap attacks from a dishonest troll who is becoming increasingly more ignored on this board.

As I’ve said before, going outside and developing real relationships is a good thing. If one spends too much time (as many of us do) online one will tend to say things they might regret. I know I’ve done this many times before and I regret the lost relationships. Which is why introspection is such a good thing. Introspection helps us make changes and learn from mistakes. If one is mostly ignored by a board or believes that one is being dishonest, then solution isn’t to double down on the dishonesty, bad faith arguments, and jerk (trolling) behavior.

Never too late to change and add value to the board. Sadly, I have a feeling he’s going to double down, attempt to make himself out to be the victim, and lash out at others.
 
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