The Biden Administration and All Things Politics

[TheGoldStandard]

Ya it seems like a certain political party wants us to be so far behind the curve on this ****. That might partly explain why we are so far behind the curve on this ****.

From what I remember Obamacare was supposed to be much better for us than it ended up being. Had to be butchered and made much worse in order for the Republicans to allow it.

No Republican voted for Obamacare. I hated it because it was a poor mix. The biggest issue (as we see with many laws) are the strong lobbys. Many Democrats didn't want to piss off their lobbyist donors, and the healthcare industry is strong. No Republican voted for it, but a number of Dems in the house voted against it.

Go true full socialized medicine or nothing. And Dems picked a middle ground that is better in some ways, and much worse in others.

The courts ruled the penalty was unconstitutional, but most of the law remained. It was a poorly thought hodgepodge from the get-go.

The problem now is those on the exchange find it next to impossible to get competent doctors in many areas. These plans have the worst (minimum) reimbursements, so most doctors, which we have a shortage of, so they can choose to be picky, simply don't accept those insurances.

We have the benefit of an influx of good doctors due to better pay/reimbursement. If we match the rest of the world, our doctor shortage will drop even more as fewer will want to take on medical school debt, and more will stay in their home countries. Not saying that should deter us, but it should be well thought out to ensure all facets of impact are considered and design around that for best outcome...

 

[Deleted member 365]

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No Republican voted for Obamacare. I hated it because it was a poor mix. The biggest issue (as we see with many laws) are the strong lobbys. Many Democrats didn't want to piss off their lobbyist donors, and the healthcare industry is strong. No Republican voted for it, but a number of Dems in the house voted against it.

Go true full socialized medicine or nothing. And Dems picked a middle ground that is better in some ways, and much worse in others.

The courts ruled the penalty was unconstitutional, but most of the law remained. It was a poorly thought hodgepodge from the get-go.

The problem now is those on the exchange find it next to impossible to get competent doctors in many areas. These plans have the worst (minimum) reimbursements, so most doctors, which we have a shortage of, so they can choose to be picky, simply don't accept those insurances.

We have the benefit of an influx of good doctors due to better pay/reimbursement. If we match the rest of the world, our doctor shortage will drop even more as fewer will want to take on medical school debt, and more will stay in their home countries. Not saying that should deter us, but it should be well thought out to ensure all facets of impact are considered and design around that for best outcome...

Republicans didn’t vote for it because they wanted to make Obama a one term president. This has been well documented. Republicans strung the Obama administration and Senate Democrats along hoping to choke out the clock and kill chances of passing reform. This was deemed as key to preventing Obama a second term. Again, this has been well documented and is key to understanding why the ACA lacks certain provisions. The ACA/Obamacare was actually the Republican version of health care reform, put into practice by Gov Romney in Massachusetts. Meaning, Republcians would support it if it were proposed by politicians with Rs by their names. We see the same stuff happening right now under Biden, where Republcians who voted against infrastructure are taking credit in their districts for infrastructure investments.

Some House Democrats didn’t vote for it because it didn’t include a Medicaid option. Had they included this option, it wouldn’t have passed the Senate Filibuster. The ACA:Obamacare is imperfect but it’s the best we could do considering one political party (still) refuses to help pass health care reform that actually improves anything.

 

[Mongoose]

This can’t be good. “Quitting in droves” ouch… After firing all the folks on his campaign that smoked weed who does he have left?

Joe Biden campaign volunteers are quitting in "droves"

A group of Biden's reelection campaign staff said in a letter that volunteers are upset with his handling of the Israel-Hamas war.

www.newsweek.com

 

[TheGoldStandard]

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Republicans didn’t vote for it because they wanted to make Obama a one term president. This has been well documented. Republicans strung the Obama administration and Senate Democrats along hoping to choke out the clock and kill chances of passing reform. This was deemed as key to preventing Obama a second term. Again, this has been well documented and is key to understanding why the ACA lacks certain provisions. The ACA/Obamacare was actually the Republican version of health care reform, put into practice by Gov Romney in Massachusetts. Meaning, Republcians would support it if it were proposed by politicians with Rs by their names. We see the same stuff happening right now under Biden, where Republcians who voted against infrastructure are taking credit in their districts for infrastructure investments.

Some House Democrats didn’t vote for it because it didn’t include a Medicaid option. Had they included this option, it wouldn’t have passed the Senate Filibuster. The ACA:Obamacare is imperfect but it’s the best we could do considering one political party (still) refuses to help pass health care reform that actually improves anything.

I worked for the government in DC at the time, and even had the opportunity to present some ideas to Congress from my Department regarding certain proposed laws on benefit protections surrounding the PPACA. I was embroiled in this stuff and Obamacare and similar proposals made me realize how futile it was from the top down trying to make a difference (because both parties already had their positions set in stone) so I left shortly after.

Yes, Obama tried to include Republicans. No House Republicans ever gave any input. Yes, a few Republican Senators initially participated in committee meetings (Kennedy was part of the committee) until McConnell shut them all down. For roughly a year before it was passed, Harry Reid had closed door sessions as it was clear Republicans would not participate. Classic example of our disfunctional government (to be clear, not blaming Reid). So very little Republican fingerprints remained in the final bill. Republicans sued and make changes later in the Tax Act years later, but most of the flaws existed without those changes.

If Al Franken didn't win his seat or Specter had not changed parties, there would have been a filibuster.

As far as Romney, most Republicans hated his state program in Mass. And many of them don't consider him a member of the party. With no offense intended to many here, outside of the Mormonism, my politics are very similar to his, so no knock on him, but he is definitely a different mold than most Rhinos. I think he would have been a great President.

Some of the revisionist history from a few of you folks is mind boggling. You are so embroiled in Red or Blue that it taints you.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Republicans working hard to solve the nation’s problems


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[Deleted member 365]

I worked for the government in DC at the time, and even had the opportunity to present some ideas to Congress from my Department regarding certain proposed laws on benefit protections surrounding the PPACA. I was embroiled in this stuff and Obamacare and similar proposals made me realize how futile it was from the top down trying to make a difference (because both parties already had their positions set in stone) so I left shortly after.

Yes, Obama tried to include Republicans. No House Republicans ever gave any input. Yes, a few Republican Senators initially participated in committee meetings (Kennedy was part of the committee) until McConnell shut them all down. For roughly a year before it was passed, Harry Reid had closed door sessions as it was clear Republicans would not participate. Classic example of our disfunctional government (to be clear, not blaming Reid). So very little Republican fingerprints remained in the final bill. Republicans sued and make changes later in the Tax Act years later, but most of the flaws existed without those changes.

If Al Franken didn't win his seat or Specter had not changed parties, there would have been a filibuster.

As far as Romney, most Republicans hated his state program in Mass. And many of them don't consider him a member of the party. With no offense intended to many here, outside of the Mormonism, my politics are very similar to his, so no knock on him, but he is definitely a different mold than most Rhinos. I think he would have been a great President.

Some of the revisionist history from a few of you folks is mind boggling. You are so embroiled in Red or Blue that it taints you.

Where did you disagree with anything I said? Thanks for essentially repeating my post. Not sure who the revisionist history comment was for.

 

[Sardines]

Republicans working hard to solve the nation’s problems


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I mean Ingraham is a modern day Goebbels. That is exactly who she is. Nasty as nasty gets. Anyone who gets little bonners for Ingraham would have gotten slightly larger little bonners for Goebbels.

 

[fishonjazz]

Trump says he hopes economy crashes in next 12 months: ‘I don’t want to be Herbert Hoover’

Former President Trump said in an interview that aired Monday that he predicts the U.S. economy will crash and that he hopes it does so within the next year. In the interview with Lou Dobbs, Trump, the current front-runner in the GOP presidential primary race, explained that, if he were elected...

www.yahoo.com

Former President Trump said in an interview that aired Monday that he predicts the U.S. economy will crash and that he hopes it does so within the next year.

“We have an economy that’s so fragile, and the only reason it’s running now is it’s running off the fumes of what we did,” Trump said. “It’s just running off the fumes.”

Trump added: “And when there’s a crash — I hope it’s going to be during this next 12 months because I don’t want to be Herbert Hoover. The one president I just don’t want to be, Herbert Hoover.”

The U.S. economy, however, has defied economists’ predictions and closed the 2023 year with high marks on a wide range of criteria: Inflation was down, job growth remained high, and the unemployment rate stayed low.

The U.S. added 216,000 jobs in the final month of 2023 and kept the unemployment rate at 3.7 percent, far exceeding the expectations of economists. The annual inflation rate also dropped from 9.1 percent, a four-decade high, in June 2022 to 3.1 percent in November, according to the Labor Department.

“The American people did it,” Yellen said. “The American people go to work every day, participate in the labor market, form new businesses. But President Biden has tried to create incentives that give Americans the tools they need to help this economy grow.”

The Biden campaign responded to Trump’s comments by quoting Biden at a campaign event a few days earlier.

“President Biden three days ago: ‘Donald Trump’s campaign is about him. Not America. Not you,’” the statement read on X, formerly Twitter




So basically trump is rooting for America's economy to crash. He also admits that it's currently doing pretty well but takes the credit for that himself.
ALWAYS A DOUCHE. EVERY TIME

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[Deleted member 365]

Trump says he hopes economy crashes in next 12 months: ‘I don’t want to be Herbert Hoover’

Former President Trump said in an interview that aired Monday that he predicts the U.S. economy will crash and that he hopes it does so within the next year. In the interview with Lou Dobbs, Trump, the current front-runner in the GOP presidential primary race, explained that, if he were elected...

www.yahoo.com

Former President Trump said in an interview that aired Monday that he predicts the U.S. economy will crash and that he hopes it does so within the next year.

“We have an economy that’s so fragile, and the only reason it’s running now is it’s running off the fumes of what we did,” Trump said. “It’s just running off the fumes.”

Trump added: “And when there’s a crash — I hope it’s going to be during this next 12 months because I don’t want to be Herbert Hoover. The one president I just don’t want to be, Herbert Hoover.”

The U.S. economy, however, has defied economists’ predictions and closed the 2023 year with high marks on a wide range of criteria: Inflation was down, job growth remained high, and the unemployment rate stayed low.

The U.S. added 216,000 jobs in the final month of 2023 and kept the unemployment rate at 3.7 percent, far exceeding the expectations of economists. The annual inflation rate also dropped from 9.1 percent, a four-decade high, in June 2022 to 3.1 percent in November, according to the Labor Department.

“The American people did it,” Yellen said. “The American people go to work every day, participate in the labor market, form new businesses. But President Biden has tried to create incentives that give Americans the tools they need to help this economy grow.”

The Biden campaign responded to Trump’s comments by quoting Biden at a campaign event a few days earlier.

“President Biden three days ago: ‘Donald Trump’s campaign is about him. Not America. Not you,’” the statement read on X, formerly Twitter




So basically trump is rooting for America's economy to crash. He also admits that it's currently doing pretty well but takes the credit for that himself.
ALWAYS A DOUCHE. EVERY TIME

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But Fish! You forget! Trump is that hard working blue collar guy who’s fighting for the workin man! He’s not an out of touch elitist. He’s a true American who cares about the poor and forgotten communities and towns. He just wants to make America great again!

I know we’ve done this, but imagine if Obama or Hillary had come out hoping for a recession for Trump. That would’ve been a top news story for weeks on Fox News and Facebook. Yet, most low info cultists will never even know that he said this.

 

[Sardines]

Trump says he hopes economy crashes in next 12 months: ‘I don’t want to be Herbert Hoover’

Former President Trump said in an interview that aired Monday that he predicts the U.S. economy will crash and that he hopes it does so within the next year. In the interview with Lou Dobbs, Trump, the current front-runner in the GOP presidential primary race, explained that, if he were elected...

www.yahoo.com

Former President Trump said in an interview that aired Monday that he predicts the U.S. economy will crash and that he hopes it does so within the next year.

“We have an economy that’s so fragile, and the only reason it’s running now is it’s running off the fumes of what we did,” Trump said. “It’s just running off the fumes.”

Trump added: “And when there’s a crash — I hope it’s going to be during this next 12 months because I don’t want to be Herbert Hoover. The one president I just don’t want to be, Herbert Hoover.”

The U.S. economy, however, has defied economists’ predictions and closed the 2023 year with high marks on a wide range of criteria: Inflation was down, job growth remained high, and the unemployment rate stayed low.

The U.S. added 216,000 jobs in the final month of 2023 and kept the unemployment rate at 3.7 percent, far exceeding the expectations of economists. The annual inflation rate also dropped from 9.1 percent, a four-decade high, in June 2022 to 3.1 percent in November, according to the Labor Department.

“The American people did it,” Yellen said. “The American people go to work every day, participate in the labor market, form new businesses. But President Biden has tried to create incentives that give Americans the tools they need to help this economy grow.”

The Biden campaign responded to Trump’s comments by quoting Biden at a campaign event a few days earlier.

“President Biden three days ago: ‘Donald Trump’s campaign is about him. Not America. Not you,’” the statement read on X, formerly Twitter




So basically trump is rooting for America's economy to crash. He also admits that it's currently doing pretty well but takes the credit for that himself.
ALWAYS A DOUCHE. EVERY TIME

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I'm sure Trump remembers the Hoover administration because that's how ****ing old he is.

 

[Red]

It’s just not easy revisioning history. You have to be sure to get most of your facts wrong, and then find a narrative in which to plug in your alternative facts. Takes practice sometimes….


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[Deleted member 365]

It’s just not easy revisioning history. You have to be sure to get most of your facts wrong, and then find a narrative in which to plug in your alternative facts. Takes practice sometimes….


View: https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1744443800175427879

If you can flood the zone with ****, you create enough confusion that people end up without any sense of reality. We’ve seen this happen with Covid and vaccines, the Big Lie, Jan 6, Russia invading Ukraine, the state of the economy, we’ll see it happen once Biden kicks Trump’s ***. By continuously gaslighting people, the right creates an exhaustion to where people just give up trying to make sense of the world they live in. Nothing is true. Nothing is right or wrong.