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The Thriller said:
Why not? If we get to blame gas prices, economics, etc on a president shouldn’t we also give them credit for when things are good? I just would like some consistency. That’s all I want.

I think it’s naive to not see how the stability of an administration and their economic policy leads to greater investment. It’s important to remember that one of the reasons why Dump stopped his daily covid briefings is that after each one they spooked the markets. For some reason, markets don’t like it when a president’s solution for a pandemic that’s costing thousands of lives daily is to shoot up clorox and stick a flashlight up your ***.

I certainly don’t want chaos back in the White House. I like the boring consistency of a normal American president. As do the markets, as we see right now. My 401k has never been higher and my family has never been wealthier! We’d all be blaming him right now if this wasn’t happening.
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I'm not talking about pissing matches, I'm talking about real data and cause and effect. Presidents have little impact on these things. Blips here and there sure, but things like the pandemic are way way more impactful than anything the president can do.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I'm not talking about pissing matches, I'm talking about real data and cause and effect. Presidents have little impact on these things. Blips here and there sure, but things like the pandemic are way way more impactful than anything the president can do.
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It’s not just pissing matches. How a president responds to a crisis is huge too and Trump failed spectacularly in that. Had we had a functioning adult, our economic losses would’ve been far less in 2020. Again, why I like Biden. We’ve had a few major crisis and he’s navigated them far better than Trump or any of these other GOP “talk tough for the base” clowns would’ve done.
 
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LogGrad98 said:
It's remarkably stupid to attribute financial gain or losses to a president. I mean like idiot-level short-sightedness.
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Agreed 100%.
Yet it seems to be the primary reason voters want to vote for Trump or not vote for Biden

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Bucknutz said:
You’re right the pandemic situation was/is the same as gas prices and inflation fluctuating.

So by your logic, you should be praising Trump for getting you 3x amount of return on your 401k. I mean Biden’s performance compared to Trumps is just terrible, even with Trump being POTUS during the pandemic. I don’t hear praise from you or Thriller. Why not? Because you two just bash Trump everytime you get a chance, even if it’s ******** lies.

You can’t comment on the facts, saying that people were not losing money by investing during the Trump term.
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Nah, I think it's dumb to praise Trump or Biden for these things.
But I mean that's pretty much the only praise Trump ever gets and gets it all the time so ...........

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LogGrad98 said:
Eh, most voters are basic.
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TBH I'm pretty basic.
Is the candidate a complete douchebag scumbag criminal and proven this to me over and over again throughout decades of time by his own actions and court convictions? Is the candidate also unqualified and incompetent?

If yes then that mofo ain't getting my vote.


Pretty basic really.


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fishonjazz said:
TBH I'm pretty basic.
Is the candidate a complete douchebag scumbag criminal and proven this to me over and over again throughout decades of time by his own actions and court convictions? Is the candidate also unqualified and incompetent?

If yes then that mofo ain't getting my vote.


Pretty basic really.


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No, you're not. You try to look past the sound-bites. That alone puts you above 80% of all voters, imo. Maybe 60% to be generous. Then you actually apply critical thinking as opposed to searching for confirmation bias. That elevates you to the top 10% of voters. You ain't basic fish.
 
LogGrad98 said:
No, you're not. You try to look past the sound-bites. That alone puts you above 80% of all voters, imo. Maybe 60% to be generous. Then you actually apply critical thinking as opposed to searching for confirmation bias. That elevates you to the top 10% of voters. You ain't basic fish.
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You ain’t basic. You’re a smart dude.
 

The U.S. added 216,000 jobs and the unemployment rate held steady at 3.7 percent in December, according to data released Friday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, closing the books on a year of remarkable economic resilience.

The December jobs gain beat expectations from economists, who projected the U.S. to add roughly 170,000 jobs last month, according to consensus estimates.

December also extended the longest stretch the unemployment rate has been below 4 percent since the mid-1960s.

Private sector earnings were also up 0.4 percent, according to the report. The average hourly wage has increased 4.1 percent over the past year, outstripping inflation, which clocked in at 3.1 percent in November.
 
fishonjazz said:
So the gold standard and I had a discussion about electoral voting vs popular vote. During the discussion he said he prefers electoral voting. He also said he hates the two party system and wishes more people would vote for the independent/3rd party candidate.

Well arguably the most successful independent/3rd party candidate of all time is Ross Perot. He got 18.9% of the total votes! 19,743,821 votes! You know how many electoral votes he got in that election? ZERO. Lol. 19,743,821 voters votes were thrown in the trash. Why the hell would anyone ever vote for a candidate who isn't a republican or democrat if we continue to use our current stupid system to determine the winner?

The two parties love the electoral system. If you hate the two party system then you should hate the electoral system of voting.
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As I said, no need to tilt at windmills. Changing the law is next to impossible on this, but states can choose to have their electoral votes pro rata. Simplest fix today.

Voting rules in this country come from a complicated past with a populus that feared a lot of things. Many of the founding fathers wanted elected representatives to vote for President, others wanted the people to vote for the President. The debates over this were interesting, and a lof of the discussions had shadows of debates today. Many against popular vote worried about corruption at the polls, which the electoral college helps attenuate (and to me completely neuters any of Trump's argument about fraud).

I could also see a popular vote situation where a radical gets the slim majority vote.

Assassination attempts aside, I like the idea of the losing party candidate becoming VP like they used to do. We need more cooperative government.

And when I talk about a strong 3rd party, I am more referring to Congress, less so President. Our two party system has degraded to having most issues come to a standstill. Very little gets done.
 
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