The Biden Administration and All Things Politics

[Rubashov]

Many of you have others on ignore. Not all of you. Is the reason you click into their ignored posts because of quotes? Help me understand! I may just implement forced ignores and figure out how to hide an entire post from someone quoting an ignored poster if I can. Threads will get confusing but ya'll can't seem to not click the link to show the post. Feed the trolls and it continues.

As for personal attacks - I'm ready to kill Gen Disc altogether. I or my moderators spend more time in this crap than anywhere else so I'm ready to just end it. @SteakNEggs - I get you sit on one side of this political divide vs the majority so would like to ask that if you find yourself attacking another individual or incessantly going off on a damn topic as mentioned, walk away for a day and then, hopefully, don't bother to post it Holds true coming the other direction. Saw @Red provoke someone today. You all bite back. The mods don't need this either so I'll start to bypass our process and just clean this up directly, no warnings.

I'll say it again - if you can't stop, I can EASILY turn off Gen Disc from your feed. I've done it for some and it's quick. I may have to force it on some.

Jason you cant even have a reasonable conversation about I dunno movies or whatever in Gen Disc without some prick making it political, its ****ed. And its most of the time the same hard right arseholes spruiking what I consider thinly veiled hate speech. Its not a difference of opinion, its an offensive ideology that is hostile to decency, human rights and democracy.

 

[SteakNEggs]

Jason you cant even have a reasonable conversation about I dunno movies or whatever in Gen Disc without some prick making it political, its ****ed. And its most of the time the same hard right arseholes spruiking what I consider thinly veiled hate speech. Its not a difference of opinion, its an offensive ideology that is hostile to decency, human rights and democracy.

I have never once said 80+ million people should be executed. You should be banned outright. These are the people accusing me of wrongdoing... I have never even come close to this. How is saying Trump supporters should be executed not direct hate speech? You literally want people murdered. How is that not hate speech? These are the type of post that go unseen and why I often am the way I am. Posters here have wanted me dead or people like me dead on multiple occasions now.

The rights not interested in independence, they want collaborators and compliance. In a better time in our history people who supported this **** and acted in the ways that Trump would encourage people to act were treated very differently. I and millions of others consider them to be traitors, in the good old day these morally bankrupt scumbags would be put up against a wall and shot and that's exactly what they deserve.

 

[Rubashov]

I have never once said 80+ million people should be executed. You should be banned outright. These are the people accusing me of wrongdoing... I have never even come close to this. How is saying Trump supporters should be executed not direct hate speech? You literally want people murdered. How is that not hate speech? These are the type of post that go unseen and why I often am the way I am. Posters here have wanted me dead or people like me dead on multiple occasions now.

80 million? Are you including your imaginary friends?

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Many of you have others on ignore.

As you have database access, there is a pair of metrics I'd find interesting. Who are the Sinister Seven? And who are the Safe-Space Seven? That is to say: who are the seven active users on the most ignore lists? ...and who are the seven active users with the largest ignore lists?

 

[Jason]

As you have database access, there is a pair of metrics I'd find interesting. Who are the Sinister Seven? And who are the Safe-Space Seven? That is to say: who are the seven active users on the most ignore lists? ...and who are the seven active users with the largest ignore lists?

You’re high up there. I’ll say only that.

 

[Deleted member 365]

More great news!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/04/23/immigration-jobs-economy/

And yet another reason why we should love immigrants and be opening up not closing our borders! Immigrants keep the economy growing! High info voters, economists, and the better educated understand this. If you don’t like immigrants, then what you’re saying is:
1. You don’t ever want to retire
2. You want a poorer America for yourself and your kids

Could there be some reforms to make things more orderly at the border? Sure. Should we look into reasons why people are leaving their native countries and if there’s anything we can do to help bring up central and South America? Absolutely. But without a doubt immigrants and immigration is a major reason why we dominate economically in the world.

 

[Red]

Saw @Red provoke someone today.

And that’s on me. I’ll try harder to be better in the future.

 

[Red]

Another impressive member of Biden’s administration.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmS2_fv9DDM&list=RDNSbmS2_fv9DDM&start_radio=1
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/gina-...ips-russia-china-60-minutes-video-2024-04-21/

 

[fishonjazz]

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/24/arizona-election-indictments-giuliani-meadows-trump-00154241

An Arizona grand jury has indicted 18 allies of Donald Trump for their efforts to subvert the 2020 election — including former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and attorneys Rudy Giuliani and Boris Epshteyn.

The indictment, which includes felony counts of conspiracy, fraud and forgery, also describes Trump as an unindicted co-conspirator.

“Defendants and unindicted coconspirators schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the presidency to keep Unindicted Coconspirator 1 in office against the will of Arizona’s voters,” the 58-page indictment reads.

The investigation initially appeared to be focused primarily on the false electors, in recent months it became clear that the scope of the probe was broader than previously understood and swept up prominent Trump allies at the national level.

Mayes is the fifth prosecutor to bring criminal charges over the sprawling, multi-state bid by Trump and his allies to upend the 2020 results. Special counsel Jack Smith has charged Trump with federal crimes for those efforts. Prosecutors in Georgia have charged Trump and many of his allies for their efforts to overturn the results in that state, including the fake electors plot. Prosecutors in Michigan and Nevada have also charged Republicans who posed as fake electors in those states.

Michigan prosecutors revealed Wednesday that Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator in their own investigation as well. And many of the newly charged defendants in Arizona, including Meadows, Giuliani, Eastman and Ellis, were charged in the Georgia case. Ellis pleaded guilty in Georgia and avoided jail time, while Meadows, Giuliani and Eastman have pleaded not guilty.

The charges against Bobb are notable because she was recently elevated to a senior position at the Republican National Committee focused on “election integrity.”

STOP THE STEAL!

 

[Al-O-Meter]

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/24/arizona-election-indictments-giuliani-meadows-trump-00154241

An Arizona grand jury has indicted 18 allies of Donald Trump for their efforts to subvert the 2020 election — including former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and attorneys Rudy Giuliani and Boris Epshteyn.

The indictment, which includes felony counts of conspiracy, fraud and forgery, also describes Trump as an unindicted co-conspirator.

“Defendants and unindicted coconspirators schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the presidency to keep Unindicted Coconspirator 1 in office against the will of Arizona’s voters,” the 58-page indictment reads.

The investigation initially appeared to be focused primarily on the false electors, in recent months it became clear that the scope of the probe was broader than previously understood and swept up prominent Trump allies at the national level.

Mayes is the fifth prosecutor to bring criminal charges over the sprawling, multi-state bid by Trump and his allies to upend the 2020 results. Special counsel Jack Smith has charged Trump with federal crimes for those efforts. Prosecutors in Georgia have charged Trump and many of his allies for their efforts to overturn the results in that state, including the fake electors plot. Prosecutors in Michigan and Nevada have also charged Republicans who posed as fake electors in those states.

Michigan prosecutors revealed Wednesday that Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator in their own investigation as well. And many of the newly charged defendants in Arizona, including Meadows, Giuliani, Eastman and Ellis, were charged in the Georgia case. Ellis pleaded guilty in Georgia and avoided jail time, while Meadows, Giuliani and Eastman have pleaded not guilty.

The charges against Bobb are notable because she was recently elevated to a senior position at the Republican National Committee focused on “election integrity.”

STOP THE STEAL!

Yup. They want to make it difficult for their targets of prosecution to get lawyers. They want lawyers to know that if they agree to be legal representation for any of these people then are at risk of being indicted as coconspirators. We the United States don't do that. We say even the worst of the worst is entitled to legal representation. That idea is so foundational that every cop has to read that right to you before arresting you.

We are living in an era where the rules are being changed.

 

[Sardines]

Yup. They want to make it difficult for their targets of prosecution to get lawyers. They want lawyers to know that if they agree to be legal representation for any of these people then are at risk of being indicted as coconspirators. We the United States don't do that. We say even the worst of the worst is entitled to legal representation. That idea is so foundational that every cop has to read that right to you before arresting you.

We are living in an era where the rules are being changed.

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So they're charged with representing someone? Or are they charged with crimes that have been on the books for some time?

 

[Al-O-Meter]

So they're charged with representing someone? Or are they charged with crimes that have been on the books for some time?

The crime is conspiracy. In the way it is being used, it could be used against any defense lawyer. If a lawyer agreed to take on a murderer as a client, consulted with the client to proceed with arguing the case, and enters a 'not guilty' plea to then go to trial, the new rules are saying that lawyer was conspiring with the murderer to evade justice.

In going after the lawyers the way that Arizona is, it is targeted at making defendants radioactive. A good lawyer could make a solid argument of the government engaging in malicious prosecution, so the government is making sure no good lawyers take the case by making a show of criminaly indicting other lawyers who tried to make arguments for these clients.