Sometimes you only need to ride a bus (and pay bus fare) for a few hours, besides the two jobs you have to show up for the kids you needs to raise. Have you ever been really poor?
Your support of this concept, or not, does nothing, zero, nada to address reluctance based on historical and current differential treatment, especially when it's being exacerbated by various grifters.
Where in 2021 would that description be real? Is there anyplace served by UTA that is a few hours away from the nearest vaccination site? In all seriousness your description sounds like your only source of information is from stereotypes and are recycling something you heard in connection to welfare said back in the 1980's. No, this construction of your imagination does not explain why 66% of Black Americans are unvaccinated against SARS-CoV-2.
The exact same system of logic using a group statistic (such as crime rates or vaccination rates) to tar all members of a group is the same system of logic used by racial supremacists. I am not accusing you or Red of being that. What I think, and this may or may not apply, is that some develop allegiances to their political team and come at quotes/articles/data from the direction of scoring points for their team. Coming from that viewpoint can shorten the depth of thought put into issues and lead to support that would be different than if those same people had come to the same issue head-on and with no politics biasing how it was looked at. I could be wrong. I often am. I think this is one of those times. I do not support using group statistics to disparage all individuals belonging to a group. I find it cringe. If we disagree on that then it is what it is.
Is this the fault of politicians and political parties or the fault of the American citizen?
It was real enough in 1995. What's changed since then?
If you don't have a car? Many places. How often have you tried to run errands to three different places using public transportation?
I'm describing my own lived experience, actually.
Nor do your denials and ignorance of what people actually go through offer a rebuttals to the lives of actual people.
1) No one has been tarring anyone.
Let's count the number of SAR-CoV-2 vaccination sites in 1995. There was.......uh......NONE.
I don't want general statements from your imagination. Give me an address served by UTA and lets see if there is a vaccination site closer than a few hours away.
Because, getting round a city on a bus suddenly got easier in 2021? Do you really believe that, or did you just miss the point entirely?
Someone who lives on Center St. in Alton, Utah and doesn't have a car or a ride.
The point is vaccine accessibility. The zip code with the greatest number of Black Utahns is 84104 and there are 32 vaccination sites within 5 miles of the geographic center. It is hard to find a point within 84014 that is more than 2000 yards from a vaccination site. Not only would no one spend "a few hours" on busses but for almost everyone they'd have to walk by a vaccination site to get to the nearest bus stop. What you've presented as a reason for 66% of Black Americans not being vaccinated is a fiction. In July of 2021, the overwhelming majority of those who are unvaccinated are so by choice.
A tiny speck in the middle of nowhere with 218 people? If they can't get 30 miles to the nearest vaccination site they've got bigger problems because that is also how far it is to the closest grocery store. Those 218 people aren't why 66% of Black Americans aren't vaccinated, and the Altonites aren't spending a few hours on the bus every day to work their 2 jobs. If anything, you are providing far more of a justification for why rural conservatives aren't getting vaccinated than why Black Americans aren't getting vaccinated.
For someone who keeps claiming to not want to drag race into the discussion, it's odd how you just keep dragging race into the discussion, and with an astounding ignorance of people and culture. Further, all of this has been a smokescreen against the very clear trend of low vaccination rates in Republican counties overall, as presented by graph The Thriller linked to.
Isn't it interesting how you never wanted to discuss race, even though you first brought up the topic irrelevantly, and now leap at the chance to defend white people while denigrating black people?
I don't defend races, nor denigrate races. I don't think in collectives and view the entire idea of race to be idiocy attractive to people who think they can judge value by nothing more than a quick glance. As I spent part of my childhood growing up overseas in a non-white part of the world, haven't lived in Utah since my junior year of high school, and my long time residence is in a city that is minority majority, I know my perspective on this is a bit different. I'm not saying I'm better than anyone because I'm not. It simply doesn't occur to me that any of the physical traits that indicate where someone's long ago relatives came from mean very much.
Pretty words, but that doesn't change your behavior. While Red and The Thriller were discussing red vs. blue counties, you insisted on looking at the data by race in post #300, despite it not being a subject in the posts you were responding to. I carefully pointed this out in posts #301 and #303, offering a better line of examination. Red says he's not interested in your racial breakdowns in post #304. Responding to that in #310, you again decide to focus on black vaccination rates.
I find your use of your scientific background to be lacking in general. You don't post with a skeptical outlook; you rarely seem to look for detailed and complicated relationships; you hold to firm categorizations on nuanced topics.
