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How much should you worry about a collapse of the Atlantic conveyor belt? » Yale Climate Connections

Scientists warned recently that the risk "has so far been greatly underestimated."
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www.independent.co.uk

Scientists sound alarm about terrifying ocean event that could bring devastation

The collapse of critical ocean circulation could bring major droughts and freezing temperatures across Europe
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The problem with this is there is no meaningful timeline. We've been hearing about imminent collapse of various parts of our ecosystems due to climate change for 30-ish years now. Most everything that has occurred has been gradual for the most part and has also been less impactful than predicted in most cases. I remember articles claiming the California drought would never end, that it signified the tipping point of climate collapse...until it ended with torrential rain. Then the torrential rain became the harbinger of climate collapse...until we got another couple of years of drought, followed by more rain. I mean, yes we can see the swings in severity, the drought was deep and record-setting with huge fires as a result, followed by literal record rainfall. But nothing that has been unendurable or life-threatening or indicative of climate collapse. And the California climate issues were just one tiny point on a huge scatterplot of **** they got wrong. Now imminently Europe will enter a mini-ice age. Ok. I'm just not buying into the panic-mongering. Things are changing, sure enough. But cataclysmically? Hardly.
 
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LogGrad98 said:
The problem with this is there is no meaningful timeline. We've been hearing about imminent collapse of various parts of our ecosystems due to climate change for 30-ish years now. Most everything that has occurred has been gradual for the most part and has also been less impactful than predicted in most cases. I remember articles claiming the California drought would never end, that it signified the tipping point of climate collapse...until it ended with torrential rain. Then the torrential rain became the harbinger of climate collapse...until we got another couple of years of drought, followed by more rain. I mean, yes we can see the swings in severity, the drought was deep and record-setting with huge fires as a result, followed by literal record rainfall. But nothing that has been unendurable or life-threatening or indicative of climate collapse. And the California climate issues were just one tiny point on a huge scatterplot of **** they got wrong. Now imminently Europe will enter a mini-ice age. Ok. I'm just not buying into the panic-mongering. Things are changing, sure enough. But cataclysmically? Hardly.
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I’m likely living where climate change is more noticeable. Our local lobster industry has collapsed, as our waters are warming and lobsters heading north. The erosion of our south facing shorelines is staggering. Our string of salt pond Atlantic beaches are among the best between NY and Cape Cod. We’re told these geographic features will be among the first to disappear with continued sea level rise. Compounding things, we lead in offshore wind development, which in turn harms the offshore fishing industry.
 
LogGrad98 said:
The problem with this is there is no meaningful timeline. We've been hearing about imminent collapse of various parts of our ecosystems due to climate change for 30-ish years now. Most everything that has occurred has been gradual for the most part and has also been less impactful than predicted in most cases. I remember articles claiming the California drought would never end, that it signified the tipping point of climate collapse...until it ended with torrential rain. Then the torrential rain became the harbinger of climate collapse...until we got another couple of years of drought, followed by more rain. I mean, yes we can see the swings in severity, the drought was deep and record-setting with huge fires as a result, followed by literal record rainfall. But nothing that has been unendurable or life-threatening or indicative of climate collapse. And the California climate issues were just one tiny point on a huge scatterplot of **** they got wrong. Now imminently Europe will enter a mini-ice age. Ok. I'm just not buying into the panic-mongering. Things are changing, sure enough. But cataclysmically? Hardly.
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More extreme climate incidents is definitely a reality, flooding and fires are becoming regular events. We're presently at the start of what I think will be the hottest summer of my lifetime, We've already had more 30 and 40 degree days than we normally would for most of the summer and its only mid December.
 
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I’m likely living where climate change is more noticeable. Our local lobster industry has collapsed, as our waters are warming and lobsters heading north. The erosion of our south facing shorelines is staggering. Our string of salt pond Atlantic beaches are among the best between NY and Cape Cod. We’re told these geographic features will be among the first to disappear with continued sea level rise. Compounding things, we lead in offshore wind development, which in turn harms the offshore fishing industry.
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I was reading articles last year on the massive environmental damage being done here by huge aquaculture corporations, the huge amount of concentrated waste caused by these fish pens is killing the sea floor.
 
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They tell you a lot of things. That doesn't mean it is true.
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Of course. But I’m not ready to dismiss what they’re saying about the AMOC. I’m also not in Trump’s “climate change is a hoax” camp. I’m sure for many on his projected team, and among his “flock”, any news related to climate issues is automatically rejected as propoganda. Seems to be assembling a pretty anti-science team as it is…



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www.livescience.com

Key Atlantic current could collapse soon, 'impacting the entire world for centuries to come,' leading climate scientists warn

Leading climate scientists ring alarm bell on key Atlantic Ocean current collapse in open letter
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I’m sure for many on his projected team, and among his “flock”, any news related to climate issues is automatically rejected as propoganda. Seems to be assembling a pretty anti-science team as it is…
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Trump’s science team is looking solid. I particularly like his nominees to head NIH and NASA.

Science is broken and needs an overhaul. ‘Publish or perish’ has led to an epidemic of academic plagiarism, and ‘peer review’ morphing into unskeptical ‘pal review’ means what is being plagiarized is fake knowledge. There is a massive reproducibility problem in science right now.

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Six factors affecting reproducibility in life science research and how to handle them

Scientific advancement depends on a strong foundation of data credibility. However, scientific findings in biomedical research are not always reproducible. Meet the organizations that are promoting best practices and helping researchers perform the highest-quality science.
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Instead of fixing the problem, academic incorporated has turned to defending all this fraudulent work using systems of power. NIH nominee Jay Bhattqacharya was right about COVID but silenced by having his funding pulled and the government making calls to social media companies to have his accounts suspended, banned, and censored.

The UK inventing climate records with non-existent measuring stations is not science. Academic plagiarizers copying fake facts is not science. Countering hypothesis with state boots on throats is not science. I’m all for Trump putting some people who have made clear their intentions to change these issues for the better into positions where they have the power to do so.
 
Our president-elect is ever helpful…

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Trump Alleges California Burning As Governor Tried To Save "Worthless" Fish

As thousands flee their homes in California due to wildfires, US President-Elect Donald Trump has launched a scathing attack on Governor Gavin Newsom, saying "this is all his fault" and he must quit
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Catastrophic California wildfires too big a crisis for small man, Donald Trump

Still weeks away from returning to office, Donald Trump is showing himself to be as petty and vindictive as he was in his first term, turning the tragic,
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Our president-elect is ever helpful…

www.ndtv.com

Trump Alleges California Burning As Governor Tried To Save "Worthless" Fish

As thousands flee their homes in California due to wildfires, US President-Elect Donald Trump has launched a scathing attack on Governor Gavin Newsom, saying "this is all his fault" and he must quit
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www.msnbc.com

Catastrophic California wildfires too big a crisis for small man, Donald Trump

Still weeks away from returning to office, Donald Trump is showing himself to be as petty and vindictive as he was in his first term, turning the tragic,
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trump is a horrible leader. And as always, a huge douchebag
 
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