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ALot of his healthcare "flops" are not flops at all.

I would never argue that Romney's positions don't get simplified and mischaracterized; that is the nature of the media. Are you saying that the positions he is supporting now are all basically the same positions he took in 2011/early 2012 in the Republican primaries, or that he had said his positions were evolving? I'm not sure why you think this was parallel to that.
 
I would never argue that Romney's positions don't get simplified and mischaracterized; that is the nature of the media. Are you saying that the positions he is supporting now are all basically the same positions he took in 2011/early 2012 in the Republican primaries, or that he had said his positions were evolving? I'm not sure why you think this was parallel to that.

Obama campaigned against an individual mandate in his primary race, among many other flip flops. It's necessary to win the primary and general election, & I actually want the candidates to lie to their absurd wings before gravitating back toward center in the general election.
 
Which wing is more absurd?

Judging by the mouthpiece last night who couldn't wrap his pea brain around the notion that lowering rates while cutting deductions is revenue neutral on the rich?

In seriousness, the absurd right has been pretty marginalized the last ten years while the left has received a hall pass on just about everything. I'm going with them since all they have to do is lie to get off the hook.
 
Judging by the mouthpiece last night who couldn't wrap his pea brain around the notion that lowering rates while cutting deductions is revenue neutral on the rich?

In seriousness, the absurd right has been pretty marginalized the last ten years while the left has received a hall pass on just about everything. I'm going with them since all they have to do is lie to get off the hook.

Pearlwatson is the soul.
 
Anyone else get fundraising e-mails from PBS today?

Interesting Nate Silver piece from today:

A bit of caution, however, about the predictive power of those polls showing Mr. Romney having clearly won the debate on Wednesday. As I mentioned after the debate, I had not come across a study on the relationship between instant-reaction debate polls and the eventual effect on the horse race polls. So I decided to do a quick one myself.

The chart below reflects the candidates that debate watchers deemed to be the winners or losers in CNN polls in 17 presidential debates between 1984 and 2008. I compare this figure with the change in national head-to-head polls before and after the debate.

(Estimates for the horse race change after the first debate in each cycle, and all debates in 1984, come from my own database; those for the rest of the debates are from Thomas Holbrook).

The estimates are framed from the perspective of the incumbent party candidate, who is designated with the letter ‘I’ and the color purple in the chart; the challenger is designated with ‘C’ and the color orange.


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The clearest win for any candidate in the CNN poll came in 1992, when Bill Clinton was deemed the winner of the second presidential debate by 58 percent of respondents, as compared with 16 percent for President George H.W. Bush and 15 percent for H. Ross Perot. That town-hall-style debate, in Richmond, Va., included this famous moment in which Mr. Clinton displayed his capacity to empathize with voters:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ffbFvKlWqE&feature=player_embedded#t=0s

Indeed, Mr. Clinton increased his margin over Mr. Bush by about four percentage points in head-to-head polls immediately after that debate. Although Mr. Clinton lost some of that advantage during the remainder of the campaign, this is still a favorable precedent for Mr. Romney, since his 38-point margin of victory in CNN’s poll on Wednesday night is similar to Mr. Clinton’s 42-point win in that 1992 debate.

In several other cases, however, the instant-reaction polls did not correlate with the change in head-to-head polls. Before Wednesday night, the second-clearest margin of victory for a challenging candidate in the CNN poll came in 2008, when Mr. Obama was declared the winner of the third presidential debate by a 27-point margin. However, his opponent John McCain actually gained slightly in the polls instead just after that debate.

In 2000, CNN instant polls deemed Al Gore the winner of both the first and third presidential debates. But he lost about three points to George W. Bush in head-to-head polls after each of them. In 1996, Mr. Clinton was declared the winner of the first presidential debate in the CNN poll, but Bob Dole gained slightly in the head-to-head polls after that.

Over all, the relationship between the winner of the instant-reaction poll and the change in head-to-head polls is positive, although not statistically significant.

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But for what it’s worth, the historical data would project a gain of 2.2 percentage points for Mr. Romney in the head-to-head polls by this time next week.
 
why does Romney want to get rid of PBS? Serious question.
 
why does Romney want to get rid of PBS? Serious question.

Because that less than .01% of the federal budget that goes towards Corporation for Public Broadcasting funding is a huge bugaboo to conservatives for some reason. Don't you know that private enterprise could make Big Bird better?
 
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