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The Future: Who to Keep, at what price, and what it means for us

QuinSnydersHair

QuinSnydersHair

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I'm not sure if they're correct but looking at shamsports, here are some of our numbers for next season and the year after. I've also used spotrac to work in the missing figures. I start this thread in trying to get a dialogue going about who to keep, why, at what number, or why not, and how our financial future would look based on different scenarios.

Hayward:15,409,570-----16,073,140
Favors: 12,000, 000-----11,050,000
Kanter (QO): 7,471,412 (11,389,348 is cap hold)
Booker (Unguaranteed): 4,775,000
Exum: 3,777,720-----3,940,320
Novak: 3,750,001
Burks: 9,213,484-----9,904,495
Burke: 2,658,240------3,386,598
Hood: 1,348,441-----1,406,520
Gobert: 1,175,880-----2,121,288
Clark: 1,147,276
Felix: 947,276-----1,015,696
Evans (cap hold): 3,410,257
Christopher: 845,059-----1,147,276


So, to start, which of these figures are wrong? Felix. How do the cap holds work again exactly?
 
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If the projections on the increase for the cap are true, we have some great deals. Favors, Gobert, even Hayward's is looking pretty damn good. And Burke and Hood on rookie deals too. I'm really liking where we're at.
 
So for 11 guys (Hayward, Favors, Burks, Burke, Gobert, Exum, Novak, Hood, Clark, Evans and Christopher), we're only at 54,735,928. I did not count Felix because we traded him and I don't think his numbers are on our books. That figure also counts Evans' exorbitant cap hold which is listed on shamsports but not spotrac as well as Novak's contract which stinks for what he's brought to the table. Knowing this, if we extend Kanter starting at 10M, and end up with the 9th pick (for argument's sake) and the first year of that is 2.3M (this year it was 2.103M), this still only brings us to 67,035,928 for 13 players.

Really not bad at all. Especially since like I said, Novak and Evans are about 6.5M of that.
 
I see us trading or gettng did of some of those guys and trying to sign a youngish get in free agency, ie someone under 30.

Keepers, imo, are:

Hayward
Favors
Gobert extended at whatever price we have to
Exum who will hopefully be a max player as well

Maybes:
Burks at his contract
Hood, maybe gets a burks like extension in 4 years
Ingles
Booker

Kanter is the other guy I have no idea about. If we can trade him for anything of value, then I say do it. If the front office has any hole he gets his head on straight, he could also be a devastating keeper for us. Who knows at this point.
 
b_line said:
I see us trading or gettng did of some of those guys and trying to sign a youngish get in free agency, ie someone under 30.

Keepers, imo, are:

Hayward
Favors
Gobert extended at whatever price we have to
Exum who will hopefully be a max player as well

Maybes:
Burks at his contract
Hood, maybe gets a burks like extension in 4 years
Ingles
Booker

Kanter is the other guy I have no idea about. If we can trade him for anything of value, then I say do it. If the front office has any hole he gets his head on straight, he could also be a devastating keeper for us. Who knows at this point.
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Would you extend Kanter starting at 10M knowing that and our 1st rounder in 2015 only brings us to about 67M? Keep in mind the LT may be around 100M in 2016.
 
I said it in another thread and I will say it again. Burks will be one of the core that we build around and he will earn his contract. He still has not reached his ceiling imo and is already a pretty good player.

During last season the knock on burks was that he was a one trick pony (only good at attacking and only good with the ball). Most people were saying that he can not play in a system, is too selfish, not a good enough floor spreader/3 point shooter, needed to shoot better from the line, and not a good defender.

Snyder got his godly hooks into burks and had burks leading the team in 3pt percentage (a career high on a career high number of attempts), leading the team in free throw percentage (a career high), and playing unselfish and within the system. (all while being injured btw)

Only weakness that he didn't turn into a strength is defense (though I thought even his defense was better than last year, though still poor)

I figure Snyder will get burks playing better defense, and burks will probably add 5-10 lbs to his frame to help his defense, plus goberts emergence will help and hopefully the defensive attitude of exum, gobert, favors, and Hayward will rub off on him.
 
Burks gets hurt for the season.... fishon keeps beating the same goddamn dead horse. FML.
 
I don't know if there's anybody else like me, but fishon's endless ranting about Burks has actually made me like Burks less. Just a little, but, yeah.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
Would you extend Kanter starting at 10M knowing that and our 1st rounder in 2015 only brings us to about 67M? Keep in mind the LT may be around 100M in 2016.
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Probably, but it really depends on who we get in the draft. Say we get karl towns, I would be signing and trading kanter at the earliest chance. I am even thinking I would trade kanter this season before the deadline.
 
NAOS said:
Burks gets hurt for the season.... fishon keeps beating the same goddamn dead horse. FML.
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NAOS said:
I don't know if there's anybody else like me, but fishon's endless ranting about Burks has actually made me like Burks less. Just a little, but, yeah.
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Sorry, I thought this thread was about what players we think we should keep and such.

I think Hayward, favors, and gobert are a given. I was just throwing out why I think Burks might be a keeper.
Seemed relevant to the thread.

Cry harder though
 
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