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The Gordon Hayward is leaving repentance thread ..

fishonjazz said:
You talking bout possiblies and maybes for boston? (George, Butler, porz)

Well how about the jazz offer him a lineup of
Hill
Hayward
Butler/george
Favors/porz
Gobert.

Winner winner chicken dinner na na na na boo boo you eat your own do do.
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Maybe more like this one:

Curry/Hill
Hayward/Green
Butler/George
Antetokounmpo/Favors
Gobert/Porz
 
I'll get a sig ready for all you unrealistic homers out there that apparently know Hayward on a personal level, know what he wants in his life, and probably live in a castle worth 500 billion.
 
fishonjazz said:
You talking bout possiblies and maybes for boston? (George, Butler, porz)

Well how about the jazz offer him a lineup of
Hill
Hayward
Butler/george
Favors/porz
Gobert.

Winner winner chicken dinner na na na na boo boo you eat your own do do.
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what i thought porz was unrealistic!

thats what people told me
 
There's no repentance that will be had. If he re-signs then everyone goes from "he won't re-sign" to "even with Hayward we don't get out of the second round and are mediocre fodder for the top teams and now we have him locked in at $31M/yr and no cap flexibility and we don't have a true star."

Lace up your Nikes, everyone. Get your shrouds. I'll be coming around to pass out the cyanide.
 
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I can't wait for July when all the worry and talk about Hayward leaving can be put to it's death. It's fairly easy to figure out that he's staying. We know winning is important to him. Of the teams that have potential cap space to offer Hayward a good contract and a winning situation you have Utah, Boston and maybe Miami. Despite Riley being a master at convincing free agents to join his teams I don't see a way in hell he sells Hayward on Miami over Utah or Boston as a better chance to win. That leaves Utah and Boston. Does Boston provide a SIGNIFICANTLY better chance to win than the Jazz going forward? No. Not at all. Boston's future is up in the air. Do the picks work out? Is IT there long-term? Are they able to trade for a star to add to IT/Hayward/Horford, and if they do are they giving up too much to do it? If they trade for a star is it enough for Hayward to join them and beat Cle/GSW? There's a lot of questions. Just like there is for the Jazz going forward. Hayward going to Boston doesn't guarantee a better situation than staying with Utah who has a young star in Gobert and a young improving team. So why would he leave? On top of that, does anyone see the Jazz panicking? Did they shop Hayward on the trade block at any point? Did they make any preemptive moves just in case Hayward leaves? Nope. I just don't see him leaving. And I'm tired of the discussion. Can't wait for G-Time to re-sign and put this to an end.
 
There's not much talk about Miami but there's no way he thinks back on years of losing in Utah and then goes to Miami.
 
There's not much talk about Miami but there's no way he thinks back on years of losing in Utah and then goes to Miami.
 
SCS said:
I can't wait for July when all the worry and talk about Hayward leaving can be put to it's death. It's fairly easy to figure out that he's staying. We know winning is important to him. Of the teams that have potential cap space to offer Hayward a good contract and a winning situation you have Utah, Boston and maybe Miami. Despite Riley being a master at convincing free agents to join his teams I don't see a way in hell he sells Hayward on Miami over Utah or Boston as a better chance to win. That leaves Utah and Boston. Does Boston provide a SIGNIFICANTLY better chance to win than the Jazz going forward? No. Not at all. Boston's future is up in the air. Do the picks work out? Is IT there long-term? Are they able to trade for a star to add to IT/Hayward/Horford, and if they do are they giving up too much to do it? If they trade for a star is it enough for Hayward to join them and beat Cle/GSW? There's a lot of questions. Just like there is for the Jazz going forward. Hayward going to Boston doesn't guarantee a better situation than staying with Utah who has a young star in Gobert and a young improving team. So why would he leave? On top of that, does anyone see the Jazz panicking? Did they shop Hayward on the trade block at any point? Did they make any preemptive moves just in case Hayward leaves? Nope. I just don't see him leaving. And I'm tired of the discussion. Can't wait for G-Time to re-sign and put this to an end.
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What Boston has that Utah does not is the ability to attract free agents.

They can change the makeup of their team more quickly than the Jazz can.

The more I think about it (don't laugh), Hayward --> LA Lakers....
 
ijazz said:
What Boston has that Utah does not is the ability to attract free agents.

They can change the makeup of their team more quickly than the Jazz can.

The more I think about it (don't laugh), Hayward --> LA Lakers....
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If Boston signs Hayward they are over the cap. So there will be very little ability to atract any free agent. Next year they have to re-sign IT and will be over the luxury tax. Then they will have to start re-signing all these rookies. They have less roster flexibility long-term than the Jazz.

Lakers would have to dump salaries to even approach Hayward with a decent offer. Even if they could open room for a max offer, Hayward wants to win. The Lakers aren't winning anything for years. Even with Hayward.
 
SCS said:
If Boston signs Hayward they are over the cap. So there will be very little ability to atract any free agent. Next year they have to re-sign IT and will be over the luxury tax. Then they will have to start re-signing all these rookies. They have less roster flexibility long-term than the Jazz.

Lakers would have to dump salaries to even approach Hayward with a decent offer. Even if they could open room for a max offer, Hayward wants to win. The Lakers aren't winning anything for years. Even with Hayward.
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They will attract vets who are willing to take minimum for chance to win a ring

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