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Saint Cy of JFC said:
What kind of start to the season will make you drop your pessimism and come to the light side?
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I think I'm being pretty optimistic. I guessed us winning more games than last year maybe even into the high 40's. Might even have a shot at 50 if the stars are aligned. But realistically we are still no contenders and 6+ seasons of mediocrity has my cynicism level at an all time high. We will probably have a fun and enjoyable, and at times frustrating season to watch. But I want a trophy and I don't think anything we did realistically gets us any closer.

But thanks for the respectful question. That is a rare thing here. I think if we can hold a top 3 position in the west through Christmas I'll start to really get excited about the season. Otherwise I'll enjoy the exciting times when they happen and get the most out of the season that I can. Sadly it is highly unlikely that will include any kind of deep playoff run.

But as I have said before I will more than happily eat crow. I just feel bad that a lot of you overly optimistic ones will be the group eating crow.

I'm hoping the FO has some magic to pull off maybe surrounding Hayward and his imminent departure that can or some wind back in our sales.
 
Such a misrepresented argument. Both ways. Sounds like politicians.
 
Obviously every fan wants their team to win a championship.

No one is special because they really really want a championship for their team.
It's not like the NBA got all the front offices together and asked "who wants a championship really bad" and the Jazz FO didn't raise their hand because they prefer mediocrity.
It you can't support your team unless they're winning a championship then being a sports fan if going to be rough.
 
Burks...

If the Dude was healthy last year we'd have been 5th seed in the playoffs!!!
 
LogGrad98 said:
I think I'm being pretty optimistic. I guessed us winning more games than last year maybe even into the high 40's. Might even have a shot at 50 if the stars are aligned. But realistically we are still no contenders and 6+ seasons of mediocrity has my cynicism level at an all time high. We will probably have a fun and enjoyable, and at times frustrating season to watch. But I want a trophy and I don't think anything we did realistically gets us any closer.

But thanks for the respectful question. That is a rare thing here. I think if we can hold a top 3 position in the west through Christmas I'll start to really get excited about the season. Otherwise I'll enjoy the exciting times when they happen and get the most out of the season that I can. Sadly it is highly unlikely that will include any kind of deep playoff run.

But as I have said before I will more than happily eat crow. I just feel bad that a lot of you overly optimistic ones will be the group eating crow.

I'm hoping the FO has some magic to pull off maybe surrounding Hayward and his imminent departure that can or some wind back in our sales.
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Guess you're just bracing yourself for disappointment, Logo, but do you realize that an attitude like yours is exactly what all losers feel and why they end up losers. Having an overly optimistic attitude is something you need to be a winner and to overachieve, and I'm hoping that's exactly what happens, that all the stars align and we do better than expected.
 
Gameface said:
Obviously every fan wants their team to win a championship.

No one is special because they really really want a championship for their team.
It's not like the NBA got all the front offices together and asked "who wants a championship really bad" and the Jazz FO didn't raise their hand because they prefer mediocrity.
It you can't support your team unless they're winning a championship then being a sports fan if going to be rough.
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What is the point then? And if you don't think they choose mediocrity I would argue that some teams truly do. It is a business, we get that, but it's also something that can generate real emotions among the patrons. To really keep the fans they have to at least show they are making an effort to deliver what the patrons want. And in business risks often must be taken to get the real rewards. Playing it too safe may guarantee a reasonable bottom line, but it's highly unlikely to generate the results the fans want to see. I'd like to see more risks, frankly.

Also frankly I don't care about being special. I'm just expressing my opinion. I guess I'm learning what it must be like to be a Sacramento or clippers fan. We got spoiled with 20 years of greatness. I want us to get there again.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I think I'm being pretty optimistic. I guessed us winning more games than last year maybe even into the high 40's. Might even have a shot at 50 if the stars are aligned. But realistically we are still no contenders and 6+ seasons of mediocrity has my cynicism level at an all time high. We will probably have a fun and enjoyable, and at times frustrating season to watch. But I want a trophy and I don't think anything we did realistically gets us any closer.

But thanks for the respectful question. That is a rare thing here. I think if we can hold a top 3 position in the west through Christmas I'll start to really get excited about the season. Otherwise I'll enjoy the exciting times when they happen and get the most out of the season that I can. Sadly it is highly unlikely that will include any kind of deep playoff run.

But as I have said before I will more than happily eat crow. I just feel bad that a lot of you overly optimistic ones will be the group eating crow.

I'm hoping the FO has some magic to pull off maybe surrounding Hayward and his imminent departure that can or some wind back in our sales.
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Stoked said:
Such a misrepresented argument. Both ways. Sounds like politicians.
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Please explain how that is misrepresented.
 
So log bro think we will win around 50 games, and he's a tad but disappointed about that. Basically the rest of the board is delighted at the prospect of winning 50 games. That about sum it up?

I'd have a difficult time being a fan too if I thought 50 wins sucked. Different strokes for different folks though.

How's Germany treating you, bro? Still miss Reno? Whenever I pass through Reno, I think of you, even though I've only talked on the internet with you. I passed through on business in March, stayed downtown at some casino and ate at a really good Taiwanese place, then got up super early and drive across the desert to beat a storm.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
Guess you're just bracing yourself for disappointment, Logo, but do you realize that an attitude like yours is exactly what all losers feel and why they end up losers. Having an overly optimistic attitude is something you need to be a winner and to overachieve, and I'm hoping that's exactly what happens, that all the stars align and we do better than expected.
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So what you are saying is that anyone who questions the direction leadership is taking is a loser even if they can see some positives in it. So unquestioned optimism is the only measure of who is a "loser" and who isn't?

I'm afraid I just fed the troll.
 
b_line said:
So log bro think we will win around 50 games, and he's a tad but disappointed about that. Basically the rest of the board is delighted at the prospect of winning 50 games. That about sum it up?

I'd have a difficult time being a fan too if I thought 50 wins sucked. Different strokes for different folks though.

How's Germany treating you, bro? Still miss Reno? Whenever I pass through Reno, I think of you, even though I've only talked on the internet with you. I passed through on business in March, stayed downtown at some casino and ate at a really good Taiwanese place, then got up super early and drive across the desert to beat a storm.
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We should have gotten together sometime. I do miss Reno. It's a nice place to live really. We are in Utah now but likely moving to the L.A. area in the next few weeks. Looking for a new opportunity on the job front and that's most likely right now.

Germany was a great experience especially for the kids. But we are glad to be back in the states. Although I definitely miss their health care system. Ours flat out sucks.

Thanks for asking.
 
LogGrad98 said:
We should have gotten together sometime. I do miss Reno. It's a nice place to live really. We are in Utah now but likely moving to the L.A. area in the next few weeks. Looking for a new opportunity on the job front and that's most likely right now. Thanks for asking.
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Nice. Hope LA works out well.
 
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