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the jazz will not win 30 games

We will win at 33 or more. Other teams will tank, and well keep 'developing our talent'
 
I really think that we are not going to be that bad. Sure, our bench is total crap but the fact that our starters are so young gives us more minutes playing the starters. We will be a very fun team to watch. I believe that Corbin is the main thing that will hold us back next year from really surprising a lot of people. I still think we have a shot at about 40-45 wins and even the 8th seed next year. I think the first month of the season will be rough but we will really start to improve from there on. And if we don't win a lot and totally suck, we will at least get to see our young guys play a lot of minutes and not waste away on the bench behind Big Al, Foye, and Marvin.
 
Washington had an exceptional pg with some experiece and a rookie wing scorer to go with bigs who had much more playing experience than the Jazz. Charlotte is a good comparison.


And the Utah Jazz have historically had a home court advantage.


If not top 5 this season will have been a waste.

Good comparison, the answer is no. Lilliard was better than Trey is. and Portland had more experience at every other position.



Eh, maybe. That is definitely one to think about. My initial reaction would be that the 04 Jazz had better spacing with Okur, and some experinece with AK and Harpring, but I would like to think about it more.

These comparisons are made completely on last years play, which is comparing bench/role players with starters of last year.

Kanter/Favors/Hayward/Burks were on PER or even better than those teams players last year.
 
The question isn't how many games we will win but rather how we compare relative to other teams. I see a lot of teams getting better from the bottom (better than us) but don't see too many moving down.
 
These comparisons are made completely on last years play, which is comparing bench/role players with starters of last year.

Kanter/Favors/Hayward/Burks were on PER or even better than those teams players last year.
But we have no bench to back them up....

I have I high hopes for our young guys and I think they'll have great stats this year, but without a bench it will be hard to win a lot of games!!
 
The question isn't how many games we will win but rather how we compare relative to other teams. I see a lot of teams getting better from the bottom (better than us) but don't see too many moving down.

This is also why I think we will loose more games, almost every team in the west got better!!! Only the suns and kings didn't move the needle to much!!
 
This is also why I think we will loose more games, almost every team in the west got better!!! Only the suns and kings didn't move the needle to much!!

Truth.

Could argue Lakers got worse, but you could also argue that without the Dwight distraction maybe they got better.

Mavs are another team. How bad will their defense be with a Calderon/Ellis back-court? If Dirk is completely healthy they are probably better though, but if he isn't I would say they are worse than last year.
 
Truth.

Could argue Lakers got worse, but you could also argue that without the Dwight distraction maybe they got better.

Mavs are another team. How bad will their defense be with a Calderon/Ellis back-court? If Dirk is completely healthy they are probably better though, but if he isn't I would say they are worse than last year.

They almost made the playoffs with dirk missing 1/3 of the season... They'll be roughly the same this year!!
 
Truth.

Could argue Lakers got worse, but you could also argue that without the Dwight distraction maybe they got better.

Mavs are another team. How bad will their defense be with a Calderon/Ellis back-court? If Dirk is completely healthy they are probably better though, but if he isn't I would say they are worse than last year.

I think the Lakers will be much better this year and for a few reasons:

1. Both Nash and Kobe are great players, but pairing them together was a silly idea simply because both players are successful for the same, mutually exclusive reason (they succeed by having the ball run through them). This will give D'Antoni an opportunity to run through Nash and encorporate guys like Gasol. Kobe can transition back in as a more complementary piece.
2. People really underestimate how big of a cancer Dwight Howard really is. There have been guys come into the league that are phenomenal talents but, despite how talented they are an the great numbers they put up, lack enough winning mentality that they are honestly a sieve to you entire team in ways that aren't quite measurable outside the W/L column. But, as it's not very measurable, nobody will attribute the W/L% to the player because we're so busy being blown away by the physical specimen and the elite numbers.
3. We need the Lakers to make the playoffs at all costs, so much so that I may make a Lakers rally thread. If they make the playoffs then that likely pushes GSW out in higher likelihood (I hope). But more importantly, with Kobe's career coming to a close and the Lakers in steep decline, in this particular draft, it's hard for me to have much faith in the impartiality of how ping pong balls drop and would this wish they bypassed the lottery all together.
 
3. We need the Lakers to make the playoffs at all costs, so much so that I may make a Lakers rally thread. If they make the playoffs then that likely pushes GSW out in higher likelihood (I hope). But more importantly, with Kobe's career coming to a close and the Lakers in steep decline, in this particular draft, it's hard for me to have much faith in the impartiality of how ping pong balls drop and would this wish they bypassed the lottery all together.

Yup. If the lakers finish with a bottom 9 record, theyre getting Wuggins.

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