The Jazzfanz Official "Let's hold hands and pray for Trey Burke"/ KOLinds Please Draft Burke thread.
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da ThRONe
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Just watched the the early part of the season. Burke is not the chucker people say he is. His biggest flaw is his shooting touch isn't there. Plus his body positioning is terrible defending the PNR the way the team defends PNR.
I know it's easy to pick a player and make him the scape goat. However most of the things people say about him I just don't see after watching him. A chucker is someone that takes ill-advised shots all the time. Trey takes really good shots most of the time when he's the starting PG and consistently makes the right plays. He just has to be able to make jumpers far more accurately then he has his first two years. Along with finishing at the rim better(or at least get the calls from the ref when he's obviously fouled) and of course get stronger to defend the PNR better.
I know people don't want to hear it(especially from a Burke supporter), but this guy is far better than the credit he's getting on this board. He may never correct his flaws, but he's IMO isn't far away from being in the mix of a top 10 player at his position in a year or so if he indeed corrects those 3 areas. Which are very correctable.
I know it's easy to pick a player and make him the scape goat. However most of the things people say about him I just don't see after watching him. A chucker is someone that takes ill-advised shots all the time. Trey takes really good shots most of the time when he's the starting PG and consistently makes the right plays. He just has to be able to make jumpers far more accurately then he has his first two years. Along with finishing at the rim better(or at least get the calls from the ref when he's obviously fouled) and of course get stronger to defend the PNR better.
I know people don't want to hear it(especially from a Burke supporter), but this guy is far better than the credit he's getting on this board. He may never correct his flaws, but he's IMO isn't far away from being in the mix of a top 10 player at his position in a year or so if he indeed corrects those 3 areas. Which are very correctable.
13.2 FGApg with a 36.8 FG% is absolutely a chucker.
Especially when he took the 2nd most FGs on the team last year (Hayward was first at 14.3 FGApg)
One could argue that that he took good shots and they just didn't go down but with that bad (historically so I think) a FG % you're chucking.
If he's shooting that poorly that frequently, then they are not "really good shots". They are in fact "ill-advised shots".
Cappy_Smurf
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Lol, are you sure you watched Burke? Trey Burke?
No, his biggest flaw is being very short without the requisite speed, quickness, and athleticism to make up for that flaw. If he can correct those, he will make medical history.
His one real strength is being able to get his own shot off. His only hope to be an adequate NBA player is to make those shots at a much higher percentage than he has so far.
Hey, I completely agree with him. If Trey becomes a MUCH better shooter, a MUCH better finisher, and a MUCH better defender, then he would easily be a top 10 PG in the league. But I'm not holding my breath.
da ThRONe
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Not necessarily. Somebody has to shoot. And often times Trey finds himself shooting low in the shot clock. I understand he has to shoot better anybody in their right minds should agree but you can't always look at things on the surface. Trey shot a great deal of 3's(almost 40% of his total shot attempts), and while his 32% isn't great it isn't that far off the league 35% average. Also he finished at the basket at a poor percentage.
He was moved to the bench to provide a "scoring punch" and it's clear he took that role to heart. Even though his shooting touch didn't justify such role.
I see this as more of a forced choice than a willing one. Hood and Burks injuries decemated the reserve and Snyder had to do something. He had limited options and was confined to the players on his roster.
When you shoot such a horrendously bad % you are a chucker. Regardless of how or when you take your shots, even if it is to a point forced on you.
Would be interesting to see how many of his FGApg came with under 5 seconds on the shot clock.
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Yeah, the fact that his holds true for any player at any position tells you how far he is from being a good PG in this league.
If he were better at everything, he would be good. Yikes.
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More interesting would be to see how often he got the ball with >10 seconds on the clock and shot with <5 seconds on the same play. I didn't get to watch very many games last year yet I still saw that happen with regularity.
da ThRONe
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These are all things players get better at through varies ways. Burke is a guy who has had success in his basketball life shooting jumpers. Fully understand the NBA is another level but expecting him to shoot better and get stronger isn't something that requires a miracle. If anything it should be expected.