The Lauri Thread

[Step-Back Lauri]

Lots of interesting questions around Lauri, especially as we get towards the off season when he can be traded.

1. His numbers are down this year, are we worried? He doesn't seem to be moving as well this year.
2. How long is he willing to play for a non playoff team?
3. How soon are we able to build a playoff team that can eventually compete for a title with Lauri?
4. Does Lauri fit in with our timeline/how has our timeline shifted with the Hendricks injury and Cody being so far behind?
5. What is Lauri's trade value? How does that change in the off season?
6. How does the 2026 draft impact the decision to trade Lauri?
7. How does our pick owed to OKC with top 8 protection impact our decision to trade Lauri?

Bottom Line: Should we look to trade Lauri this coming off season?

(Might add more questions later)

1. His numbers are down a bit, because Jazz don't both want or can run same sets they used to. He's even more closely defended now and neither starting guards have magically become better playmakers, and one of them is very uneffective and doesn't get respect. IMO Lauri doesn't move much worse, but Jazz don't run as many off ball sets with him. It's partly to investigate if he could develop his ISO game in more static situations. I'm not too much worried, as the plan probably never was to look for trade him until the summer 26 the earliest (I predicted 2027 when he has 2 or 2,5 seasons of contract left, meanwhile the cap space also goes up- Jazz will be good or trade him then.

2. Only Lauri knows. But I'm not sure he wants to hard tank another season, so unless Jazz hits their draft targets, and will be go on to suck this much again... He might be frustrated. I'm not betting on him to ask a trade out as he's states he'd like to be a part to build something. My initial though is getting top 5 pick now, and improvise it the next season.

3. To do it right 26-27 is the earliest Jazz can dream of more than borderline play-in level. If Jazz has managed to get a great draft pick and possibly nailed one trade, it could look good.

4. Lauri will fit the timeline only if the 2025 pick will be ready to contribute some in his rookie contract, to get the understanding if it makes sense to pair him and Lauri past this current contract

5. Trade value has decreased. Two firsts to three firsts at most right now, depending how he'll play the season. He's not going to be allstar Lauri bc they're trying new things to him which takes down his efficiency a bit. But doesn't matter,bc the goal probably never was to trade him next summer.

6. The 2026 draft ofc plays a part. It's too early to make predictions, we have to see the 2025 rookies and how Jazz looks like 12-15 months from here

7. Owing the pick to OKC sucks, but I think Jazz can suck enough if needed, to keep their pick and not trade Lauri. I don't think trading or not trading Lauri is crucial for that. Jazz will be young enough to run half a season if hard tank if needed, and keep their pick with Lauri.

Bottom line: Trading Lauri this off season would be stupid. He'll have better value in the trade if they'll land a great playmaker that can shoot. They wouldn't try build Lauri's tool bag on this season if they had a thought of trading him next summer. It's the biggest proof on him not being on the trade block. It'll be either 26 summer or, my guess 27 spring if he'll be traded.

 

[jazznik]

That what happens when you don't have a good point guard on the roster. John Collins can get his points without a point guard, Sexton can do it too, Clarkson also could do it before this season. But a player like Lauri can't. When the Jazz get a decent floor general we will get back the All Star Lauri.

 

[jazznik]

Also, you folks need to decide what do you want: to finish in the bottom-3 or to have the All Star-level Lauri. You can't have both.

 

[Miggs]

If Lauri starts playing a little better, we should trade him. Not sure if we have to wait till December (or the summer like Embiid) but it makes no sense to not trade him imo.

Lauri clearly won’t fit our timeline. He, along with Sexton and Collins, two other players who shouldn’t be in our future, should also be moved. Stockpile more picks. In the offseason, sign the best two vet leaders possible. Guys who can truly lead and help groom young players. Then give our 1st rounder, Keyonte, Collier, Hendricks, and whoever else a **** ton of time. Even if it’s to the tune of 13 wins. **** it. Great players need to learn how to fight and win. Tough to do that when other guys are options 1, 2 and 3.

 

[oldtimer]

cant trade him at all this year

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Keyonte this season is shooting a worse 3 point percentage, worse 2 point percentage, (worse field goal percentage as well of course) and worse free throw percentage than he was last season.

Hes played 18-20 games and got off to a slow start to start the year. He hasn’t been half bad at all. You are nitpicking a little. Also he’s 21, and no where near the finished product.

 

[Tanktastic]

- How soon are we able to build a playoff team that can eventually compete for a title with Lauri?
- Does Lauri fit in with our timeline/how has our timeline shifted with the Hendricks injury and Cody being so far behind?

A tanking team doesn't have a timeline. The timeline is "when we get lucky". You have to keep tanking until you get lucky, otherwise it was all for nothing. When will the Jazz have a competitive playoff team? Maybe not in our lifetimes, maybe in two years time. With a tanking team it's impossible to know. What we do know is that none of the six picks used by Ainge so far will elevate the team to that level.

 

[fishonjazz]

Hes played 18-20 games and got off to a slow start to start the year. He hasn’t been half bad at all. You are nitpicking a little. Also he’s 21, and no where near the finished product.

I was just posting factual stats is all. Not nitpicking anything.

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[fishonjazz]

If Lauri starts playing a little better, we should trade him. Not sure if we have to wait till December (or the summer like Embiid) but it makes no sense to not trade him imo.

Lauri clearly won’t fit our timeline. He, along with Sexton and Collins, two other players who shouldn’t be in our future, should also be moved. Stockpile more picks. In the offseason, sign the best two vet leaders possible. Guys who can truly lead and help groom young players. Then give our 1st rounder, Keyonte, Collier, Hendricks, and whoever else a **** ton of time. Even if it’s to the tune of 13 wins. **** it. Great players need to learn how to fight and win. Tough to do that when other guys are options 1, 2 and 3.

Can't trade Lauri till the off season

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[Thee Jazz Fan]

I was just posting factual stats is all. Not nitpicking anything.

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So then why not say he’s been a lot better lately instead of he sucks because his stats are down. To me he looks like a guy who is going to score 20 a game on 6-7 ast and shoot 37-38% from three as a finished product.

Reality is that he’s not a finished product 21 year old playing out of position pg who is the best pg on the team. Not sure why you think he should be a world beater already. He’s been really good the last two weeks.

 

[Tanktastic]

In the offseason, sign the best two vet leaders possible.

No vet leaders that can still ball have any interest in taking part. They can get another Patty Mills that's realistically already done, but exactly what does that help?

Great players need to learn how to fight and win.

Guys stuck on 13 win teams season after season will only learn to lose and to not care. That's been proven so many times.

 

[fishonjazz]

So then why not say he’s been a lot better lately instead of he sucks because his stats are down. To me he looks like a guy who is going to score 20 a game on 6-7 ast and shoot 37-38% from three as a finished product.

Reality is that he’s not a finished product 21 year old playing out of position pg who is the best pg on the team. Not sure why you think he should be a world beater already. He’s been really good the last two weeks.

This thread is about trading lauri or building around him now. I wanted to build around him but then several factors changed my mind. One of those factors is the fact that keyonte hasn't improved like I thought he would.
If he is what you say he will be in like 5 years then thats cool and I agree, I too think he will be a good player, but that is too late to build around lauri. Keyonte sucking currently is one of the factors to making me want to trade lauri