The lunatics have taken over

[infection]

Because you're white and you've never been on the receiving end of colonialism devestating your culture and heritage.

 

[infection]

 

[Red]

Because you're white and you've never been on the receiving end of colonialism devestating your culture and heritage.

Maybe not my particular Irish butt, but try telling the Irish people that they've never been on the receiving end of colonialism. Ireland knew colonialism. The British moved an entire population of Protestant Scots into Ireland to displace the Irish from their homes. And as we know, the IRA fought back against the British and their replacement population.

 

[fishonjazz]

The color of my skin is not a crime. The idea that I ought to feel guilt ridden because there have been people with skin pigment similar to mine who have done bad things is just plain stupid. People of all races have done bad things, and people of all races have done good things. People of any given race are not better or worse because of the actions of their distant relatives (or their close relatives either). I have just as much right to be judged based on the person I am as anybody else.

Here here.

 

[Stoked]

Maybe not my particular Irish butt, but try telling the Irish people that they've never been on the receiving end of colonialism. Ireland knew colonialism. The British moved an entire population of Protestant Scots into Ireland to displace the Irish from their homes. And as we know, the IRA fought back against the British and their replacement population.

There are reports (disputed from what I can tell) that at one time the Irish population was killed off and/or sold into slavery in great numbers. Both #s wise and % wise. Something like 50ish % of Irish were killed or sold into slavery.

I feel no guilt or burden for being white. But that doesn't mean I cannot see there are problems in our society. Problems encouraged from all sides.

 

[VINYLONE]

Every day we hear a new whacked out story. When I saw this one I initially thought it was satire. It's real!

Ottawa University has suspended their free yoga class over concerns of "cultural appropriation." The instructor proposed changing the name of the class to "mindful stretching" but the president of the student union remains concerned that certain groups of people feel left out in yoga-like spaces. Hilarious!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...y-Ottawa-students-cultural-appropriation.html

I went to the original article at the Ottawa Sun to see if there are any difference in reporting and there was none. I did find this part of the original reporting as the most important part of the article:

But Scharf, a yoga teacher with the downtown Rama Lotus Centre, said the concept does not apply in this case, arguing the complaint that killed the program came instead from a "social justice warrior" with "fainting heart ideologies" in search of a cause celebre.

"People are just looking for a reason to be offended by anything they can find," said Scharf.

This is happening all across colleges and universities in this country of ours. It's been mentioned by many comedians, most recently by Mr. Seinfeld, that most comedians are staying away from educational institutions because of the "easily offended." This faux/ manufactured outrage is able to thrive in these places because of all of the like minded slackjaws that are able to "organize" with each other. What I've asked before in one of these similar threads is if anyone has experienced this SJW mentality in day to day life? I haven't and I'm in an industry that is filled with new millennials every new TV season.

A great example of one of these overly raged trolls is our own Butchy, one of the most easily offended hacks on this board.

The situation over the yoga class has less to do with cultural appropriation and more to do with what I quoted...as least in my opinion.

 

[carolinajazz]

Whatever they are, I have a feeling that they're nothing like participating in a free morning yoga class. Getting offended by that seems obscenely stupid to me.

People suffering from stress, depression, and frustration have also turned to yoga for solace and solutions. Is yoga simply an exercise routine that will give the practitioner a healthy, slim body and some peace of mind? Can yoga be practiced without any religious overtones?

How far back in history can yoga be traced? Figures of people seated in various yoga positions appear on seals found in the Indus Valley, in present-day Pakistan.

The Hindus claim that the figures sitting in yoga positions are images of the god Siva, lord of the animals and lord of yoga, who is often worshiped through the lingam, a phallic symbol. Thus, the book Hindu World calls yoga “a code of ascetic practices, mainly pre-Aryan in origin, containing relics of many primitive conceptions and observances.”

The objective of yoga as a discipline is to lead a person to the spiritual experience of being “yoked” to or merged with a superhuman spirit.

In Hindu World, author Benjamin Walker says of yoga: “It may have been an early system of magical ritualism, and yoga still retains in its meaning an overtone of occultism and sorcery.”

Whatever health instructors may say to the contrary, yoga does not stop with physical exercises! The ultimate goal of yoga is "moksha", explained as the merging with some impersonal great spirit.

The choice of what physical exercise to pursue is a personal one. For those exercising simply for the sake of their health, there are many avenues available that do not involve exposure to the dangers of spiritism and occultism.

So there you have it! Not only is it "offensive" to many....it's down right dangerous!

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

People suffering from stress, depression, and frustration have also turned to yoga for solace and solutions. Is yoga simply an exercise routine that will give the practitioner a healthy, slim body and some peace of mind? Can yoga be practiced without any religious overtones?

How far back in history can yoga be traced? Figures of people seated in various yoga positions appear on seals found in the Indus Valley, in present-day Pakistan.

The Hindus claim that the figures sitting in yoga positions are images of the god Siva, lord of the animals and lord of yoga, who is often worshiped through the lingam, a phallic symbol. Thus, the book Hindu World calls yoga “a code of ascetic practices, mainly pre-Aryan in origin, containing relics of many primitive conceptions and observances.”

The objective of yoga as a discipline is to lead a person to the spiritual experience of being “yoked” to or merged with a superhuman spirit.

In Hindu World, author Benjamin Walker says of yoga: “It may have been an early system of magical ritualism, and yoga still retains in its meaning an overtone of occultism and sorcery.”

Whatever health instructors may say to the contrary, yoga does not stop with physical exercises! The ultimate goal of yoga is "moksha", explained as the merging with some impersonal great spirit.

The choice of what physical exercise to pursue is a personal one. For those exercising simply for the sake of their health, there are many avenues available that do not involve exposure to the dangers of spiritism and occultism.

So there you have it! Not only is it "offensive" to many....it's down right dangerous!

Two things:

1)When you post someone else's words to this site you should provide a link. Otherwise you are nothing but a plagiarist and a fake.

2) When you stick your conclusion on the end of someone else's argument you should at least take the time to make sure it follows logically.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Maybe not my particular Irish butt, but try telling the Irish people that they've never been on the receiving end of colonialism. Ireland knew colonialism. The British moved an entire population of Protestant Scots into Ireland to displace the Irish from their homes. And as we know, the IRA fought back against the British and their replacement population.

If they knew colonialism, they wouldn't move to a nation and proceed with attempts at destroying indigenous and African culture once arriving to America. Shortsighted on their parts.

 

[Deleted member 848]

It's at least as compelling as your incessant appeals to authority -- which constitute ~90% of your arguments on JF -- and your implicit promotion of illiberal/authoritarian ideals and social/political order.

Then feel free to address them when you see them, as well as bringing up examples of my "illiberal stances" that promote authoritarian ideals.

 

[Deleted member 848]

The color of my skin is not a crime. The idea that I ought to feel guilt ridden because there have been people with skin pigment similar to mine who have done bad things is just plain stupid. People of all races have done bad things, and people of all races have done good things. People of any given race are not better or worse because of the actions of their distant relatives (or their close relatives either). I have just as much right to be judged based on the person I am as anybody else.

The colour of your skin is not a crime-- however, your acceptance of the privilege that comes with your skin without attempts at addressing the lack of privilege from other skins is tantamount to a crime (speaking generally here, not yourself specifically). Complacency in an environment of prevalent racism continues the legacy of one's racist forefathers

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

The colour of your skin is not a crime-- however, your acceptance of the privilege that comes with your skin without attempts at addressing the lack of privilege from other skins is tantamount to a crime (speaking generally here, not yourself specifically). Complacency in an environment of prevalent racism continues the legacy of one's racist forefathers

I disagree with your assessment that we live in an environment of prevalent racism. All around me I see people who chose to focus on success rather than victim-hood, and they are thriving. There is absolutely no upside to perceiving yourself as (or acting the part of) a victim.

Here is an important truth that is hard for many people to accept: Life is not fair. I have certain advantages, and I also have certain disadvantages. So does everybody. Each one of us must make the best of our situation given what that situation is. It's great if we have the energy and resources left over to help others, but that's not an obligation.