The more things change, the more they stay the same

[LunaticWolf]

Is there any way for you to turn off the commercial your phone slaps onto the end of each of your messages because AdBlock hasn't evolved to tackle this sort of **** yet and your HTC Evo was probably assembled by a 13 year old Chinese boy 14 hours into his shift and you condoning child slave labor really undermines your message in this thread, imo, thanks

Wow. Grow up?

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

I haven't been around. Please enlighten me. Why is a 6'10" 280 pound center with averages of 17, 9, and 2, worth less than a 6'8" 250 pound power forward who averages 17, 8, and 1?


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You're ignoring my original point. You're acting as if Jeff should have no problem playing center based on his height and weight alone. Except his height means **** if he doesn't play big. And he doesn't. Sorry but 8.9 rebounds and 47.8% from the floor for a 6'10" 4/5 tells me he doesn't play big. Look at what other stud bigs shoot from the floor. Look at other stud big's rebounding rates. Jeff's rebounding per 48 is good, or should I say bad, for 32nd in the league. There's five rookies ahead of him there for God's sake including awful Greg Monroe who's soft as hell.

 

[LogGrad98]

You're ignoring my original point. You're acting as if Jeff should have no problem playing center based on his height and weight alone. Except his height means **** if he doesn't play big. And he doesn't. Sorry but 8.9 rebounds and 47.8% from the floor for a 6'10" 4/5 tells me he doesn't play big. Look at what other stud bigs shoot from the floor. Look at other stud big's rebounding rates. Jeff's rebounding per 48 is good, or should I say bad, for 32nd in the league. There's five rookies ahead of him there for God's sake including awful Greg Monroe who's soft as hell.

Per 48 is a near meaningless stat. Let me get 1 rebound in 11 seconds of game play and my per 48 is a whopping 261 rebounds per 48. I am not disagreeing with you about AJ. I am firmly in the camp that thinks he would function far better as a PF than a center. But the per 48 stat does over-inflate people that don't get the PT, when there is no way to prove that if they had the PT they would perform at that level.

 

[vj_74]

Salty, the duo of Millsap and Jeff are undersized. I dont know how you can argue that. Just about every other center in elite teams are atleast 6-11 and in most cases 7 ft or above. If you are trying to guard guys who are taller and are atleast as strong as you on a nightly basis that is an uphill task.

 

[Lakers_Slapper]

Per 48 is a near meaningless stat. Let me get 1 rebound in 11 seconds of game play and my per 48 is a whopping 261 rebounds per 48. I am not disagreeing with you about AJ. I am firmly in the camp that thinks he would function far better as a PF than a center. But the per 48 stat does over-inflate people that don't get the PT, when there is no way to prove that if they had the PT they would perform at that level.

The "per 48" stat is pointless if you only play 1 minute a game. But its very helpfull for a player playing 20+ per game. (If it wasn't they woulndt have it) this is a stat that scouts use to see a players impact when going the duration. Like when picking college players eligible for the nba draft. I'm not disagreeing with you, well maybe I am, but I'm on my final strike on jazz fanz so ill leave it at that before I make you looke stupid.

 

[LogGrad98]

The "per 48" stat is pointless if you only play 1 minute a game. But its very helpfull for a player playing 20+ per game. (If it wasn't they woulndt have it) this is a stat that scouts use to see a players impact when going the duration. Like when picking college players eligible for the nba draft. I'm not disagreeing with you, well maybe I am, but I'm on my final strike on jazz fanz so ill leave it at that before I make you looke stupid.

Just go run the stats at NBA.com or elsewhere for per48 for rebounds and see who is above who. And that is what people use to make their arguments. Of course there is some use for it, don't be stupid. But it is not a good single stat to use to compare 2 players head to head.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Dammit guys.

Salty has a point!

We're sooooooooooo missing the 5 games that Boozer would have played this year. We would have missed all those "injuries" as he went off jackpotting around with Michele Money.

Salty clearly has a point. Boozer is so much better than Jefferson and Millsap.

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[vj_74]

We have certainly missed Boozer tripping over the bag of cash in his house and injuring his knuckles. That story would have been something around these parts, especially right after a fresh contract.

 

[vj_74]

The title of this thread is actually more apt to describe the Jazz ownership and top brass. It doesnt matter whether it is father or son running the team. The bottomline remains the same. Point to be taken.

 

[SaltyDawg]

Dammit guys.

Salty has a point!

We're sooooooooooo missing the 5 games that Boozer would have played this year. We would have missed all those "injuries" as he went off jackpotting around with Michele Money.

Salty clearly has a point. Boozer is so much better than Jefferson and Millsap.

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I know our resident idiot missed it, but my point was we should have kept Matthews instead of Millsap. And yes, we are absolutely missing Matthews.

By the way, Okur at pf and Jefferson at c is not undersized, has inside and outside games, and rebounds well.

 

[Jazz4ever]

I know our resident idiot missed it, but my point was we should have kept Matthews instead of Millsap. And yes, we are absolutely missing Matthews.

By the way, Okur at pf and Jefferson at c is not undersized, has inside and outside games, and rebounds well.

It could work if Okur returned to his old form. Thats a huge if.

 

[LogGrad98]

I know our resident idiot missed it, but my point was we should have kept Matthews instead of Millsap. And yes, we are absolutely missing Matthews.

By the way, Okur at pf and Jefferson at c is not undersized, has inside and outside games, and rebounds well.

I like this. Matthews would be better than anything we have at the wing now. I was against them letting him go from the beginning. But KOC never listens to be the *******.

I also want to see them start Memo to play alongside AJ. At least the threat of Memo and his 3's would open up the floor for AJ and Deron to work around the basket.

That really is the biggest thing we miss this year, someone who can actually hit the outside shot with enough consistency to keep the defense honest. Not sure how many more games I can watch with Bell, CJ and AK left all alone while their defender roams and disrupts the offense down low.