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SaltyDawg said:
So I decided to check out the Jazz board and see what what's what. It's been a while...

I remember everyone on this board blasting Boozer relentlessly for being soft. Supposedly all we needed was a "shot blocking center" and the Jazz would be the greatest team in the history of basketball. Supposedly Boozer's soft defense was the only thing wrong with the Jazz defense. Supposedly the Jazz were a great rebounding team without Boozer and Boozer's numbers were padded by stealing rebounds from his team mates. Supposedly the Jazz could put any scrub at power forward and they would automatically look like an all world player due to the Jazz offense.

Well here we are. We have a center averaging 2 blocks per game. We have a team who gets killed on the boards every night. We have Millsap looking like a scrub at power forward more often than he looks like a starter- especially when it comes to rebounding. We have one of the worst defensive teams in the league (especially lately).

And what do I see all over this board? People blasting the Jazz offense (and Jefferson) because Jefferson actually posts up. People blasting Jefferson's defense.

I guess people need to be careful what they wish for. Or I guess another way to put it is people will always find something to complain about.

Serious topic here. I was talking with one of my friends and he brought up a good point. If the Jazz could do it all over again, do they let Portland have Millsap and then match Wes Matthews? Would the Jazz really be any worse right now starting AK at power forward, or Okur at power forward, or even Elson or Evans? They would clearly be better off starting Matthews at sg than Bell, I don't think anyone disagrees with that.
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Here we have Boozer getting injured before the season even starts. Missing the first month of the season to a lame injury.
Some things never change....
 
Revolution 9 said:
Here we have Boozer getting injured before the season even starts. Missing the first month of the season to a lame injury.
Some things never change....
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Boozer missed the first month of the season, but he's still been more productive than Millsap overall.

Has Millsap even got double digit rebounds against a winning team yet? If he has, those games have been few and far between.
 
SaltyDawg said:
Boozer missed the first month of the season, but he's still been more productive than Millsap overall.
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How did you arrive at that conclusion? Someone in the Booz> Millsap thread took into account games missed and divided total points+rebs for the year by the no of games played and Millsap came out with higher averages.

You have to somehow figure in durability into overall productivity. I think the gap gets closer then.

Booz is of course the more skilled player, no one is debating that. But how much he has helped his cirrent team to get the record that they have now is something that is a strong function of the no of games Booz was healthy and contributed
 
vj_74 said:
How did you arrive at that conclusion? Someone in the Booz> Millsap thread took into account games missed and divided total points+rebs for the year by the no of games played and Millsap came out with higher averages.

You have to somehow figure in durability into overall productivity. I think the gap gets closer then.

Booz is of course the more skilled player, no one is debating that. But how much he has helped his cirrent team to get the record that they have now is something that is a strong function of the no of games Booz was healthy and contributed
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Boozer is averaging 20 points, 10 rebounds, and 55% from the field. Millsap is averaging 17 points, 8 rebounds, and 53% from the floor. Boozer has got double digit rebounds in 19 games so far. Millsap has double digit rebounds in 11 games so far.

Boozer plays less minutes too, and still puts up better stats.

If someone is seriously trying to make an argument that Millsap is better than Boozer, then they are an idiot. I thought it was a given that Boozer was much better than Millsap. My point in this thread is even Okur or Kirilenko is as good as Millsap so we should have let Millsap go to Portland and kept Matthews instead. Boozer being better was a given.
 
SaltyDawg said:
Boozer is averaging 20 points, 10 rebounds, and 55% from the field. Millsap is averaging 17 points, 8 rebounds, and 53% from the floor. Boozer has got double digit rebounds in 19 games so far. Millsap has double digit rebounds in 11 games so far.

Boozer plays less minutes too, and still puts up better stats.

If someone is seriously trying to make an argument that Millsap is better than Boozer, then they are an idiot. I thought it was a given that Boozer was much better than Millsap. My point in this thread is even Okur or Kirilenko is as good as Millsap so we should have let Millsap go to Portland and kept Matthews instead. Boozer being better was a given.
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AK and Okur are as good as Millsap. Laughable.
 
KrazeeEyezKilla said:
AK hasn't played as well as Millsap has over the course of a season in about five years. And Okur might as well be playing in a ****ing coffin.
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Healthy Okur is one the top 6-7 centers in the league..
Prime Millsap is not one of the top 15 power forwards in the league..But I think He is a great role player.
 
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