The New England Patriots vs the Seattle Seahawks. Superbowl XLIX thread.

[Saint Cy of JFC]

So the sound bites make the NFL suck? To each there own.

In a game where I have no emotional connection to the team or players, yeah.

Also don't have a tv and work Sundays.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

don't have a tv and work Sundays.

Like I said.

Failing at life.

 

[fishonjazz]

Teams do this all the time in similar situations,

I agree with this.
I thought it was a horrible call but was not all that shocked by it...... coaches call horribles plays all the time.

I will say though that even if the seahawks scored on the pass, I still would have thought it was an incredibly dumb play call

 

[fishonjazz]

NFL sucks.

College football is way more entertaining and NFL is just annoying.

The only story lines the media shoved down our throats for an entire 2 weeks was "deflate gate" and Marshawn Lynch saying 1 phrase for every media interview. And the Seahawks and Patriots both suck and have 0 likeable players.

You watch football for the storylines?

I just like to see the best athletes in the world playing the best sport in the world on the biggest stage.
And helps when the game is AMAZING like this superbowl was

 

[fishonjazz]

Yeah....but he gets the td and people would be saying it was a great play and he out smarted the pats. I would have pound beast mode into that line though.

I would not have thought it was a great play if they scored.
I would have thought that they went against the odds of what was most likely to get them into the endzone and was lucky it worked out

 

[8]

I would not have thought it was a great play if they scored.
I would have thought that they went against the odds of what was most likely to get then into the endzone and was lucky it worked out

Yeah. Pretty much this.

Had they even had any success with a play like that the whole game? Seemed most of their successful passes were to the outside where receivers would make a play, and a couple wheel routes to Lynch. Time was no issue. They needed a yard. Lynch had just run through multiple dudes to get a nice gain on the previous play. Like Fish said, I don't think the potential reward was any better for that play than just handing it off to Lynch, and the risk was a million times higher.

Serious question, had the Pats tackled Lynch for a loss at all the entire evening? Just curious.

 

[Fishsticks]

I would not have thought it was a great play if they scored.
I would have thought that they went against the odds of what was most likely to get them into the endzone and was lucky it worked out

You probably would have thought nothing of it. They would have scored and everyone would have went crazy. No one would say a negative thing about it honestly. Seriously they would have won the freakin Super Bowl. Though Like I said don't agree with the call.

 

[fishonjazz]

You probably would have thought nothing of it. They would have scored and everyone would have went crazy. No one would say negative thing about honestly.

I disagree
Ya I would have went crazy and been caught up in the moment, but I still would have been thinking, I can't believe they passed it. (the reason I would be thinking that is because I think passing in that situation is stupid)

 

[8]

In that tiny sliver of time when I realized they were throwing a pass and before I saw the result of the play (about a half second probably), I thought to myself, 'wow, what a horrible decision.'

 

[Fishsticks]

Carrol sounded like a damn mess in the post game. He knows he blew it.

 

[fishonjazz]

It's like if someone has a knife and is bigger than me and coming at me to try to kill me, yet I know I'm faster than him and have room to run and I decide, **** it, I'm going to just charge right at the knife wielding maniac and somehow get lucky and I don't die.

Does that mean charging the knife wielding maniac was a good idea? No, running away was obviously the best option, I just got lucky.



I don't know if I make sense

 

[Fishsticks]

In that tiny sliver of time when I realized they were throwing a pass and before I saw the result of the play (about a half second probably), I thought to myself, 'wow, what a horrible decision.'

Maybe I'm jaded because I needed them to lose.

 

[Fishsticks]

It's like if someone has a knife and is bigger than me and coming at me to try to kill me, yet I know I'm faster than him and have room to run and I decide, **** it, I'm going to just charge right at the knife wielding maniac and somehow get lucky and I don't die.

Does that mean charging the knife wielding maniac was a good idea? No, running away was obviously the best option, I just got lucky.



I don't know if I make sense

I like when you do this.

 

[Nate505]

Bama trying to kick a field goal from 60 yards out (to have it returned for a game losing TD) vs. Auburn was worse.

Nope. This was far, far worse. Running a missed FG back for a TD is far more flukey than throwing a pick in crowded territory.

Plus the risk/reward is worse in this case. In that game IIRC Bama would have won the game, and if they would have missed and actually had a coverage team worth a damn it would have gone into OT.

That pass would have won them the game, but so would a run for a TD. And it's not like the Pats were playing lights out run defense in that game. And the Seahwaks had 3 shots at it.

 

[Nate505]

The only respectable decision would be to not watch football altogether imo. I'd never choose college over pro. The quality of play is not even close.

As far as what the media shoves down people's throats - I don't bother with that ****. It's pretty simple to not watch that. Just turn on the TV to watch the game and then turn it off when it is over.

Glad I watched this game, it was hella entertaining.

Agreed. College is terrible play wise. And it's a bunch of programs who go out of their way to schedule crappy games. Still there are aspects about it I like.

 

[fishonjazz]

My bets

Pats PK
under 24 1st half
Vereen first td
yes to a team to score 3 time unanswered
wilson under 41.5 rushing yards
Gronk to receive between 61-70 yards
Sherman under 3.5 tackles

Looks like you might have cleaned up.

What were the results of each of these?

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

So it's being reported that Sherman needs tommy John surgery. Does this mean he misses all of next year, or is the recovery for a football player different then that of a pitcher?


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[Bawse Dawg]

Looks like you might have cleaned up.

What were the results of each of these?

Under 1st half missed, along with Vereen. I'd think that Wilson one failed cuz I remember two big runs, but maybe not. The rest hit.

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

HSAC @Harvard_Sports:

SEA was second in the league in power situations, getting stuffed just 17% of the time. Lynch converted 17 of 20 3rd/4ths & short this year.

The Pats allowed opponents to score 81% of the time in power situations (runs on 3rd/4th & <2, or w/i 2 yds of goalline). Dead last in NFL.

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

From Barnwell's preview at Grantland:

Here, actually, is a rare spot where one of these teams has a strength that matches up with a weakness of the other. The Patriots do not make a lot of plays at or behind the line of scrimmage in the running game. Football Outsiders notes that they are 28th in the league in stuff percentage, which accounts for plays in which the opposing runner is stopped behind the line of scrimmage. They’re last in power situations — runs on third or fourth down with two yards or less to go, and runs within two yards of the goal line — while allowing teams to convert a whopping 81 percent of the time. The Seahawks are second in the league in power situations, with Lynch & Co. getting stuffed behind the line of scrimmage on only 17 percent of their carries, the sixth-best rate in the league.