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The Thriller said:
I don’t know about this. I see a lot of good athletes with these teams while I saw a lot of crap on the Jazz. Sure is Holiday a prime Baron Davis or Westbrook level athlete? I guess not. But he looks better than anything on the Jazz, especially with size. I look at these other teams in the playoffs and they have big guards and athletic wings to spare. I can hardly keep track of Dallas’s wings as they all can run, jump, defend, and shoot the hell out of the ball. We just have so much work to do.
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We have a ton of work to do. This is a really flawed roster right now and it starts with our lack of long athletic wings that can switch nonstop and swarm teams defensively. The good news is that we have plenty of picks over the next few years to transform this roster. This draft alone could transform the roster with the amount of long wings that is has.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yeah I would say you're pretty wrong.

Holiday and White are two of the best defensive players in the NBA. You have to be athletic to have that distinction. Might not be flashy athleticism, but they are athletic.
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This old argument. I will say it again. When I talk about athleticism IM talking about jumping ability and speed primarily. Some people think fat golfers are athletic because they can swing a golf club with precision. Some people think walker kessler is a great nba athlete. That isn't how i view athleticism in the nba.
And thriller said "tear down the rim" right in his post. Do you often times see holiday tear down the rim?

So basically you agree with me that holiday isn't super fast or a great leaper. Which is what im referring to.
 
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Saint Cy of JFC said:
I just think the definition of athleticism in basketball peoples minds is skewed towards very specific traits. Reaction time is athleticism. Lateral movement is athleticism. Balance is athleticism.
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none of those things get a dude tearing down the rim though like was referenced in the post I quoted. Tearing down the rim is the type of athleticism being discussed here.
 
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sip said:
It was a mistake but I can't really blame Hardy since he didn't want to constantly be looking over his shoulder knowing that management also viewed him as a head coaching candidate.
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I don't buy this kind of thinking. I mean, I know it's a popular way of looking at it, but I think this is the kind of thinking for beta folks. If you are going to be an NBA head coach, you need to have big *** balls. You can't put what is better for the team behind your insecurity. If that is the way Hardy thinks, he should go sell insurance.
 
infection said:
This is what frustrates me about the Snyder era. We continually blame the roster and the defenders (or lack thereof) on it. I have beef with DL but if you were to weight the actual problems, the system structure and the conditioning of “just let Rudy do it” was the real downfall. Changing that would have made the difference.
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Hell if Donovan could have been bothered to give a single **** about playing any defense at all then we likely get past the clippers at least one year in the mix and then who knows what. The system was certainly proven to be ****, but the lack of defensive ability and desire was the nail in the coffin.
 
Looks like a clean strip to me. I think pacers win this challenge

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I really want the knicks to win but I do think that indiana has a better chance at giving boston some trouble.
 
fishonjazz said:
I really want the knicks to win but I do think that indiana has a better chance at giving boston some trouble.
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I don't think either team will give Boston any trouble.

Knicks are out of gas and crippled. Pacers are fun, but they aren't that good.
 
MT Steve said:
I don't think either team will give Boston any trouble.

Knicks are out of gas and crippled. Pacers are fun, but they aren't that good.
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ya i agree.
 
So did the mavs shamelessly tank at the end of last season in order to keep their pick which ended up being lively?
 
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