The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

[Deleted member 365]

I’ve never read any report showing me that food stamp fraud is rampant. Is it more excessive than any other type of fraud? I’m fine with some fraud as long as the vast majority are served. Right? Like no one here expects there to be zero fraud in any aspect of their life, right? No matter what, there will always be a certain percentage of people who Cheat on tithing, cheat on tests, exceed the speed limit, drive without seat belts, and abuse SNAP, right?

I’m curious, @LoPo, what are current fraud rates for food stamp recipients? And what rate would be acceptable to you?

 

[LoPo]

I’ve never read any report showing me that food stamp fraud is rampant. Is it more excessive than any other type of fraud? I’m fine with some fraud as long as the vast majority are served.

I’m curious, @LoPo, what are current fraud rates for food stamp recipients? And what rate would be acceptable to you?

No idea. For all I know, the people with brand new shoes, cell phones and cars were in a much worst state than their appearances showed.

Donald Trump didn't attack any person with his moves on this. He's attacking the system. You can't change anything right now without somebody getting hurt. AHCA helped millions but also made even more millions pay more for health care. Did we need AHCA? Yes. Does higher health insurance suck? Yes. Did Obama "attack" people who didn't need health care but have to pay higher rates? No. I'm not going to spin the narrative to say that Obama attacked me.

 

[One Brow]

Once again, you are using the very tiny sample ...

The "new car" was your tiny sample, not mine.

Tons of people abuse the food stamp system. I'm glad it's harder to get them.

What percentage of recipients is "tons" and how many of those "tons" were affected by this reform?

I don't equate unprofessionalism with hating certain groups of people.

I agree these are completely different things.

The media is twisting that narrative.

The same media that Trump paid to advertise having 5 black kids executed after they were exonerated?

Also, I don't rate my president by his professionalism. I rate it by the economy and my family's safety. As long as he isn't outright attacking people in our country or starting wars outside it, which he isn't on either, I'm okay with the job he's doing. I wish he had more polish and would stay off Twitter, but once again, I care more about his job.

OK.

 

[Harambe]

No idea. For all I know, the people with brand new shoes, cell phones and cars were in a much worst state than their appearances showed.

Donald Trump didn't attack any person with his moves on this. He's attacking the system. You can't change anything right now without somebody getting hurt. AHCA helped millions but also made even more millions pay more for health care. Did we need AHCA? Yes. Does higher health insurance suck? Yes. Did Obama "attack" people who didn't need health care but have to pay higher rates? No. I'm not going to spin the narrative to say that Obama attacked me.

Sure.

Demonstrate to us how the system is systemically broken, or that we as a society will gain from it being attacked, or even attacked in this manner

 

[Deleted member 365]

No idea. For all I know, the people with brand new shoes, cell phones and cars were in a much worst state than their appearances showed.

Donald Trump didn't attack any person with his moves on this. He's attacking the system. You can't change anything right now without somebody getting hurt. AHCA helped millions but also made even more millions pay more for health care. Did we need AHCA? Yes. Does higher health insurance suck? Yes. Did Obama "attack" people who didn't need health care but have to pay higher rates? No. I'm not going to spin the narrative to say that Obama attacked me.

Sooooooo you have zero quantitative data, just your own personal anecdotal accounts?

Am I correct in my observation?

 

[Deleted member 365]

So donald is using his powers as president to punish a state who’s launching lawsuits into his personal businesses? Interesting.

If only we had seen Donald a using the powers of his office before. If only we had seen his leveraging the powers of the American government to benefit himself personally.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WARNED YOU ALL ABOUT. DUH.


5:30-6:00 “do any of us have confidence that this president wont abuse his power as president to benefit himself personally?”

 

[One Brow]

For an easy example - how many times do you park in a parking lot and see some perfectly abled person park in a handicapped spot yet are able to jump right out and go inside?

I went to college with a guy like that.

He had been a paratrooper in the army, and his knees that were painful to walk more than a few hundred feet on. Perhaps he should have used a wheelchair to make me feel better about his parking?

 

[Deleted member 365]

Defend this, I dare you

 

[Deleted member 365]

Lol

 

[colton]

Tons of people abuse the food stamp system.

What's the evidence of that? I am legitimately curious; I've never looked into how effective or not the food stamp program is. And by evidence, I mean actual evidence, not just your anecdotal observations.

 

[Eminence]

What's the evidence of that? I am legitimately curious; I've never looked into how effective or not the food stamp program is. And by evidence, I mean actual evidence, not just your anecdotal observations.

Back when it was physical stamps fraud was pretty common, currently it's estimated at between 1 and 3%.

Here's an article on the history from Time: https://time.com/4711668/history-food-stamp-fraud/

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

That's great! I'm happy for ya. My wife and I are on fixed incomes, but I've been blessed throughout my life. We're far from wealthy at all, but being on the lower end of an income scale has never been a reason to complain, because I know the VAST majority of humanity is far worse off they we have ever been. Bit of a hard knock to start 2020. Wife was in a bad car accident; gonna take months to recover, but she'll get there, one day at a time.

I've always had an "ability", not sure what else to call it, a "gift", I'm not sure, to correctly predict trends and developments in several areas of interest to me. Not just the social sciences, the field in which I worked, but in a few other disciplines as well. If that happens often enough, and it has, it gave me confidence to know I can often see how things will in fact trend. I just learned to trust my instincts and insight. For instance, I was looking at my journal the other day, and noticed that on the day Trump descended the escalator in Trump Tower to declare his candidacy, I wrote three words: "rule of law". Lol, I knew what I meant by that. That there would be an assault on that bedrock building block if he were ever president. Seeing the news the past two days, from the opposition's perspective to be sure, of AG Barr taking a sledge hammer to the rule of law, demoralizing and politicizing our Justice Dept., it's hard not to think "yeah, that's what I was afraid of".

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ju...est-trump-including-stone-sentencing-n1135231

I know I must sound pretty arrogant at times, but I'm a humble person, really. Hey, Joe, of course I could be wrong. Maybe Trump will do something that will cause history to say he was the 21st century's greatest leader, who saved the human race from disaster.

At any rate, I count my blessings, Joe. I've had way more than(notice the correct usage, lolol?) my fair share. Life is plenty good enough.

Great post. it's interesting that I have experienced a gift very similar to yours. I've been fortunate to find myself on the high end of the financial spectrum (though nowhere near as high as some). Given that we have such different views of the landscape now, it will be interesting to see which one of us is correct... as long as it's me that is correct. If it's you we will all sincerely wish this era had never happened.