The *OFFICIAL* Russia Is About To Invade Ukraine Thread

[fishonjazz]

To me, there is a huge difference between praising a person versus praising an action. Affirmation of a person fosters narcissism while affirmation of an action reinforces the motivation to act. Trump does the former, but Joe Biden does the latter. Trump signaled his acceptance of Putin while Joe Biden signaled his acceptance of invading Ukraine.

Nah trump praises the person and the action. trump literally said he encourages Russia to invade any country who is behind on their bills.
You know, like the United States for instance.

How did Joe signal his acceptance of Russia invading Ukraine? I'm pretty certain that however you answer that it won't be as blatant as when trump literally said he encourages Russia to invade countries who are behind on their bills.

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[fishonjazz]

Biden: called on lawmakers to move forward on approving stalled military aid to Ukraine.

Also Biden: In a message to Russian President Vladimir Putin, Biden said his message was simple:

"We will not walk away. We will not bow down," Biden said to a roar of applause. "I will not bow down."


Trump praises Putin, praises Putin attack on Ukraine and encourages Russia to invade any country who is behind on their bills.

Al sees trump as standing strong against Putin and Biden being weak against Putin
Lololololol.

Time I start treating Al like I do steakneggs.

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[One Brow]

When Joe Biden signaled to Russia that America would do nothing more than sanctions if Russia made a “minor incursion” into Ukraine, that let Putin know the box was no longer shut.

'If any assembled Russian units move across the Ukrainian border, that is an invasion. Let there be no doubt if Putin makes this choice, Russia will pay a heavy price'

Doesn't sound like just sanctions.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

"We will not walk away. We will not bow down," Biden said to a roar of applause. "I will not bow down."

That is great and all but Russia is already in Ukraine. There is already a war going on.

How did Joe signal his acceptance of Russia invading Ukraine?

From right before Ukraine invaded:


As for Trump inviting Russia to invade NATO countries, that message was meant for NATO countries, and it wasn't if they don't pay their bills. It was if they don't spend the amount they've committed to building up their own military. NATO is a preventative structure. Trump was doing what Trump does in doing what he could to make the preventative side as heavy as he can so the world doesn't end up in war. The point is to avoid war, not commit to forever war.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Thought this was worth reading

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/03/13/alexei-navalny-yulia-navalnaya-putin-russia-election/

 

[Deleted member 365]

Interesting

GOP Rep. Mike Turner said Sunday that Russian propaganda has taken hold among some of his House Republican colleagues and is even "being uttered on the House floor."

"We see directly coming from Russia ... communications that are anti-Ukraine and pro-Russia messages, some of which we even hear being uttered on the House floor," Turner, chair of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, said in an interview on CNN's "State of the Union."

GOP Reps. Mike Turner and Mike McCaul say Russian propaganda is being repeated by Republicans

House Intelligence Chair Mike Turner on Sunday said several of his GOP colleagues have repeated Russian propaganda on the House floor.

www.nbcnews.com

I dunno what he’s talking about, let’s ask MTG one of the biggest leaders in MAGA what she thinks.

Oh…

View: https://x.com/accountablegop/status/1777363785142964668?s=46


I dunno Biden and the Dems are really old and stuff… right? Inflation and egg prices or something. I just think we should keep the house in the hands of the gop. They’re really responsible good leaders.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

The Biden Administration has flipped and is now protecting Russia. For those who haven't been following the situation in Ukraine, the Ukrainian military has found a highly effective weapon that Russia seems unable to stop, and it has been doing real damage to Russia. It is Biden to the rescue and the US military has just informed the Ukrainians that they will stop using their newly effective weapon against Russia.

They are long range drones that are taking out Russian oil refineries in Russia. Putin's regime is funding everything through oil sales. The Ukrainians came up with a way to hamper those sales using drones that were developed entirely in Ukraine. There was one day three weeks ago where Ukraine took out 10% of Russia's refinery capacity nationwide in a single night. Either Russia doesn't have any air defense around the refineries or Russian air defense is so bad that it doesn't work against the drones.



This news is pretty new so I'm not sure what Ukraine will do. It would be different if the US Military were threatening to withhold weapons or offering to send weapons if the Ukrainians comply with the new demands to stop attacking Russia, but the US isn't sending anything either way. The Biden Administration is just making the demand that Ukraine stop attacking Russia.

US reveals why it told Kiev not to attack Russian oil depots

Ukraine should strike military targets and not drive up global energy prices, US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has said

www.rt.com

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Kiev’s strikes at Russian oil refineries may affect global energy situation — Pentagon

According to US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, "Ukraine is better served by going after tactical and operational targets that can directly influence the current fight"

tass.com

 

[Bucknutz]

The Biden Administration has flipped and is now protecting Russia. For those who haven't been following the situation in Ukraine, the Ukrainian military has found a highly effective weapon that Russia seems unable to stop, and it has been doing real damage to Russia. It is Biden to the rescue and the US military has just informed the Ukrainians that they will stop using their newly effective weapon against Russia.

They are long range drones that are taking out Russian oil refineries in Russia. Putin's regime is funding everything through oil sales. The Ukrainians came up with a way to hamper those sales using drones that were developed entirely in Ukraine. There was one day three weeks ago where Ukraine took out 10% of Russia's refinery capacity nationwide in a single night. Either Russia doesn't have any air defense around the refineries or Russian air defense is so bad that it doesn't work against the drones.



This news is pretty new so I'm not sure what Ukraine will do. It would be different if the US Military were threatening to withhold weapons or offering to send weapons if the Ukrainians comply with the new demands to stop attacking Russia, but the US isn't sending anything either way. The Biden Administration is just making the demand that Ukraine stop attacking Russia.

US reveals why it told Kiev not to attack Russian oil depots

Ukraine should strike military targets and not drive up global energy prices, US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has said

www.rt.com

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Kiev’s strikes at Russian oil refineries may affect global energy situation — Pentagon

According to US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, "Ukraine is better served by going after tactical and operational targets that can directly influence the current fight"

tass.com

Interesting. I think that’s a great strategy for Ukraine.

“Those attacks could have a knock-on effect in terms of the global energy situation,” Austin told the Senate Armed Services committee Tuesday. “Ukraine is better served in going after tactical and operational targets that can directly influence the current fight.”

I would think those refineries would be considered “tactical” and “operational” targets.

 

[fishonjazz]

Biden administration didn't make the demand that Ukraine stop attacking Russia.
A statement like that would only be posted by a partisan troll and any one who believes a statement like that is an idiot.

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[LogGrad98]

Interesting. I think that’s a great strategy for Ukraine.

“Those attacks could have a knock-on effect in terms of the global energy situation,” Austin told the Senate Armed Services committee Tuesday. “Ukraine is better served in going after tactical and operational targets that can directly influence the current fight.”

I would think those refineries would be considered “tactical” and “operational” targets.

It's also been pretty standard tactical warfare for centuries. Take out the enemy's supply lines. Means for energy production and funding qualifies. Those are great targets frankly. If they have this drone capability they should be going after electricity generation and oil refinery as well as the oil fields directly.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Interesting. I think that’s a great strategy for Ukraine.

“Those attacks could have a knock-on effect in terms of the global energy situation,” Austin told the Senate Armed Services committee Tuesday. “Ukraine is better served in going after tactical and operational targets that can directly influence the current fight.”

I would think those refineries would be considered “tactical” and “operational” targets.

Refineries were certainly considered tactical and operational targets by the US military in prior wars. The main strategy against Rommel in Africa was to run him out of fuel. The cracking of the Enigma code by the allies was foremost used to intercept fuel shipments.

The Biden administration is terrified of the reappearance of those little "I did that" stickers of Biden pointing on gas pumps. He is refusing to refill the Strategic Petroleum Reserve for fear it will spike gas prices, and he's bullying Ukraine into stopping their effective strategy for the same reason.

Biden administration cancels buyback of 3 million barrels to replenish oil stockpile

The Biden administration has canceled two planned oil purchases aimed at replenishing the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR), the Department of Energy confirmed Wednesday. The planned purchases woul…

thehill.com

US Cancels Latest Oil Reserve Refill Plan Amid High Prices

The Biden administration won’t move forward with its latest plans to buy oil for the Strategic Petroleum Reserve amid rising prices.

www.bloomberg.com

How and Why Biden Destroyed the Strategic Petroleum Reserve | National Review

Instead of unleashing more American energy, Biden has chosen to use America’s emergency reserves to solve his own political problems.

www.nationalreview.com

Biden admin cancels plan to refill emergency oil reserve amid high prices

The Biden administration is abruptly canceling plans to replenish the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, which the president has depleted to fight high gasoline prices.

www.foxbusiness.com

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Biden administration didn't make the demand that Ukraine stop attacking Russia.
A statement like that would only be posted by a partisan troll and any one who believes a statement like that is an idiot.

Yes, the Biden administration did demand that Ukraine stop attacking Russia. Early in the war he authorized the transfer of weapons, but said they were not to be used against targets on Russian soil. The weapons that were sent were the shorter range versions that generally could not reach Russia proper.

Later, Ukraine was supplying some Russian dissidents who were attacking Belgorod in Russia. The US military told them they had to stop, and the US military stopped providing intelligence to Ukraine until Ukraine pulled them back from Russian territory.

Now the Biden administration has demanded the cessation of drone attacks against oil infrastructure in Russia. It was fine when the drones were tiny little things that did no real damage but the moment the Ukrainians figured out how to do damage then the Biden administration stepped in to stop it.

The Biden administration is allowing Ukraine to attack Russians, but not Russia. Sorry if that ruins the image you have of Biden.